EPA-Its not over yet

[John Kissel]

First, I ain't no hack, but you might have missed the memo, that with in the past 7 years and a piece, everything has become political. From the light bulbs in your garage, the food you eat, to which bathroom you use. It is creeping, like living by the Manatee River in a storm. Check the river in the evening, and wake up in the morning with the river circling around the neighborhood.John Kissel

[Bruce Noland]

Originally Posted by John Kissel

First, I ain't no hack, but you might have missed the memo, that with in the past 7 years and a piece, everything has become political. From the light bulbs in your garage, the food you eat, to which bathroom you use. It is creeping, like living by the Manatee River in a storm. Check the river in the evening, and wake up in the morning with the river circling around the neighborhood.John Kissel

Yeah, and what's your point? Politics is in everything? OK we all understand that. Now the river is rising and we will all be drowned in politics? Except for this site. We won't be drowned in politics here. This is the place we come to discuss racing and escape politics and other world problems.

[Ok stocker]

The EPA at best will be held at bay for awhile. They will find another way to attack anything they want or are being directed too.

[goinbroke2]

Wow, for the sake of using 'obama' instead of "the president" or "a president" you've derailed three pages of the thread. Bush? Hell yeah, his plane just as much as Obama's and as much as Clintons and whatever other president you want to name. THAT WASN'T THE POINT!!!

Nobody even mentioned that the rep responses were "we're keeping an eye on it, don't worry" and the dem responses were "well, we have to have clean air to breath you know" Nobody mentioned that, but no doubt you'll take a hissy fit about that too.

Get back on topic, stop crying about the soon to be gone pres and worry about the future of racing!

(and of course ad hominum attack coming in 3..2...1..)

[NHRA 303]

Hi MIke. I reposted your petition request on all of my racer/car sites and facebook pages. To help spread the word. This is the reply a friend of mine got back.


Robert Tate - PLEASE READ THE RESPONSE I GOT! !!
Thank you for writing to me regarding your support of S. 2659, the Recognizing the Protection of Motorsports Act of 2016.

I understand your views on this legislation, however I am concerned that, S. 2659, the Recognizing the Protection of Motorsports Act of 2016, would remove protections placed in the Clean Air Act.

The Clean Air Act authorizes EPA to establish National Ambient Air Quality Standards (NAAQS) to protect public health and public welfare and to regulate emissions of hazardous air pollutants. Without protections like these, our children and families could suffer health complications, including asthma and other respiratory ailments.

As a member of the Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works, I believe it is important to ensure we are protecting our clean air. We must not create loopholes for emissions that would potentially harm our environment and families, while also protecting racecar enthusiast's rights.

Thank you again for writing to express your concerns, and I hope that you keep in touch with my office regarding future legislation. For more information on this and other important issues, please visit my website at http://gillibrand.senate.gov and sign up for my e-newsletter.



WOW! They definitely have their sites set on us dont they. Especially since about 50% of weekend bracket racer's are running "Ethanol". Oh and as a side note. Ive been an inner city paramedic for 28 years. And have yet to see a smog enduced asthma attack.

Steve Tucholsky

[Bruce Noland]

Originally Posted by goinbroke2

Wow, for the sake of using 'obama' instead of "the president" or "a president" you've derailed three pages of the thread. Bush? Hell yeah, his plane just as much as Obama's and as much as Clintons and whatever other president you want to name. THAT WASN'T THE POINT!!!

Nobody even mentioned that the rep responses were "we're keeping an eye on it, don't worry" and the dem responses were "well, we have to have clean air to breath you know" Nobody mentioned that, but no doubt you'll take a hissy fit about that too.

Get back on topic, stop crying about the soon to be gone pres and worry about the future of racing!

(and of course ad hominum attack coming in 3..2...1..)

It takes more than one person to cover 3 pages on this thread but you seem to think I did it all by myself. But in the end we want the same damn thing. Stop the political digs. That's what drew me back into this thread. And it should stop even if the administrator isn't paying attention.

[davidhuff]

Originally Posted by Bruce Noland

It takes more than one person to cover 3 pages on this thread but you seem to think I did it all by myself. But in the end we want the same damn thing. Stop the political digs. That's what drew me back into this thread. And it should stop even if the administrator isn't paying attention.

Please give my condolences to your family for having to put up with you on a daily basis.LOL

[Adger Smith]

This thread has problems. People problems.
To me the real issue is not if Obama, Clinton, Bush or Bush or Ronald Mc Donald was president when the over reaching mandates were enacted.
The problem is WE have the EPA over stepping. No agency should have the authority to do the damage to industry and business that the EPA does without congressional approval of their Mandates or what ever you want to call them.
It seems they(EPA) are good at taking congressional guidelines and twisting them around and hammering out harsh mandates. Most of the time there is no real oversight by congress unless "We the People" raise He** with our congressional members and alert them to the problems that the EPA mandates create for our industry. The system is broken. EPA, BLM and a few other agencies need to be overhauled and a few people on this board need to get their panties out of a wad. You know who you are , now flame away. I could give a Rats A** about your political agenda.

[Bruce Noland]

Originally Posted by davidhuff

Please give my condolences to your family for having to put up with you on a daily basis.LOL

Oh, it's the old let's attack the guy through his family crap. How childish can you be? I have a great family that needs no condolences from insult hurling little guys like you. It is interesting to see how easily you ol'boys get upset when someone doesn't buy into your conservative views.

[Dwight Southerland]

Bruce, you lie about people, call them names and are generally disrespectful in replies to them and then you want to complain about someone making fun about you? You purport to want to keep politics out of this forum and yet you continue to make political digs and attacks? Give me a break. . . .