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Old 04-07-2010, 01:05 AM   #71
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http://www.akerlychilds.com/

Clevite series bearings.

http://www.kingbearings.com/advantages.html

A very good alternative and on the fast side.

There is alot of black majic in bearings.

One thing to note: On ALL rod bolts keep a log of free standing length. When new go to full stretch (not torque) in specs 3 times. (Usually 2 of these are during the resizing process.) If free standing length changes over .001 at any time crush threads with a hammer and discard ALL of the bolts. You are very likely already doing this. If not you will be astonished at your findings in batch to batch metalurgy/strength/Rockwell ratings.
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Old 04-07-2010, 05:48 AM   #72
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Drooze, are both the 5.7 and 6.1's aluminum blocks?, if so, are there iron blocks available for each?
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Old 04-07-2010, 06:05 AM   #73
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Is there anyone betting to see how long this thread will last? I got 5 bucks payable via paypal that there is 40 more posts and at lease another 20 of the those will be novel lenght replys.
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Old 04-07-2010, 08:25 AM   #74
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Drooze, are both the 5.7 and 6.1's aluminum blocks?, if so, are there iron blocks available for each?
Neither is alluminum block....both cast over the shelf same as street car.

5.7 has thicker walls can go .075 over usually no problem.
6.1 is thinner .030 max on a GOOD sonic check if youre lucky.

Our 5.7 is from an 06 Jeep Cherokee.....
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Old 04-07-2010, 11:10 AM   #75
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Crate Camaro, no takers here. And I wouldn't expect any, either. I mean, after all the thread starts like this.....
"Ok, I feel compelled to post..." (said a mouthful there Droozie)
I probably should have used all caps on the 'compelled'.

Crate, you're estimates are likely too low. But I just helped get you started toward your goal.
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Old 04-07-2010, 12:14 PM   #76
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Is there anyone betting to see how long this thread will last? I got 5 bucks payable via paypal that there is 40 more posts and at lease another 20 of the those will be novel lenght replys.
I got 50 that says it will last until at least Christmas and have over 40 more posts, all over 500 words wanna bet
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Old 04-07-2010, 02:10 PM   #77
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Those bearings are BRAND NEW Out of the Plastic !

Its something in the way they are treated. They are ACL Racing Bearings Made in Australia

These are AFTER they were cleaned with tet and scrubbed dry.

The bearings and all their sisters brand spankin in the plastic look the same , except in all there is variation on the coating/heat treating, the backs are BROWN like BURNT heat Brown......

But they are BRAND New....

Drooze...what is the date on the packaging or bearings?
Many high performance bearings that contain an aluminum layer, will get surface corrosion if they are stored improperly and have even seen this happen on new boxes were the bearings came wrapped in plastic.
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Drooze...what is the date on the packaging or bearings?
Many high performance bearings that contain an aluminum layer, will get surface corrosion if they are stored improperly and have even seen this happen on new boxes were the bearings came wrapped in plastic.
4/6/08 feel clean as as a whistle....but good info, didnt know I needed to check my bearings for an expiration date

(Then again you could be like my dad , he drank 2 glasses of milk from 1/1/10 last week......blllleeeeeeaaaahhhhhhh he said "Nah its still good I hadnt opened it".........said it was fine....ugh)
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I've used ACL'S for the last 4 years on my BBC engines. ..They are supposed to look like the picture, they have no overplate like street bearings do. .....ACL's have a slightly wider oil relief band at the parting line,than Speed Pro/ Federal Mogual bearings do..........I've also noticed they maintain their crush in the bore better as well. ..............I havn't used or even seen shiny race bearings in the last 15 years!. ...........Tom
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Old 04-07-2010, 04:18 PM   #80
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I've used ACL'S for the last 4 years on my BBC engines. ..They are supposed to look like the picture, they have no overplate like street bearings do. .....ACL's have a slightly wider oil relief band at the parting line,than Speed Pro/ Federal Mogual bearings do..........I've also noticed they maintain their crush in the bore better as well. ..............I havn't used or even seen shiny race bearings in the last 15 years!. ...........Tom
Good to know Tom, thanks...

I noticed they are wider in the center oil band

On th rods I noticed they also taper that unlike teh clevites I have....

They seem hard as holy hell for a trimetal bearing, maybe that why they maintain thier crush ?

Thanks a lot, its nice to know now from more than one source "they are right" they just look odd...not that odd is bad, but never having seen them prior to being put in an engine taking them out with low runtime well...they still look "odd"

Tearing it all down for the last time and back for final assembly all is well in the world. Had a hell of a time getting a cam (of the 3) setup right, but well it is now....the reasons it wouldnt are stupid beyound belief (and good in a way) So my NEW cam will work. Im happy.

Should be "on the road" Friday Morning.

Cheers

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