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Old 07-13-2020, 02:51 PM   #71
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Or else what?...

To be polite about it, I would have refused and wouldn't have stood for Grannies and Grandpas standing in the sun for 2 hours. Until people stop complying with this crap, "they" are going to continue to play Kings & Queens with no concern for the ramifications.
I just sent an email to the Mayor of Lincoln. I am sure I will get a gobbide gook answer back.

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Old 07-13-2020, 03:39 PM   #72
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Default Re: Can NHRA survive without John Force ?

Perhaps this has something to do with Force sitting out....regardless, unless local policies permit significant crowds in attendance NHRA won’t keep this up long.

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Old 07-13-2020, 03:52 PM   #73
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I hope I'm wrong but I don't see the current NHRA around much longer then maybe 2025 look at the age of Stock, SS, and Comp. racers it would be interesting to see the break down say of 20to30, 30to40, 40to50 and 50+ then look at the TRUE COST of racing a car for 3years I hear the Large Woman is almost ready to sing.
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Old 07-13-2020, 04:06 PM   #74
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Maybe a better question is will Super Stock and Stock survive?
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Old 07-13-2020, 04:39 PM   #75
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Or it could be after what happened with the Pro Stock Truck deal. They are trying to do away with you without actually saying they are doing away with you.


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Old 07-13-2020, 04:48 PM   #76
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Jeez oh Pete! Can we please, please turn down the negativity?
Can we please stop biting the hand that feeds us?

Good heavens this is getting old, and it would seem a large portion of the posts with negativity originate from folks that don't even currently race.

Based what I have observed, the overwhelming majority of us race NHRA class racing because of the technical challenges, the fascination with a restricted class based on production body cars like ours, and the drive for that coveted Wally, in particular winning one and hoisting it up in front of the folks at a national event.

Some of these keyboard warriors wax on and on about payouts.... When is the last time you won an event? Oh, ok, sorry, I get it... you weren't at the event.....
Yes, I understand now, you would have been at the race and won, but the payout sucked, so you didn't go at all. Rrrrright.

S and SS Classes at many events, fill at 7 grade points. There are plenty, plenty of young drivers in S and SS. Don't give me that crap that we are all old and dying, and the classes are dead....

Can we please stop with the fake news?

Am I concerned and disappointed with low quota's at national events, yes for sure. But those active and committed racers who are also concerned, should be professionally, and politely speaking out to their division reps. Not bashing our sanctioning body anonymously on a public forum, where no doubt, their sponsors and creditors check in on.

All the discontent, payout-complaining racers (an non-racers) are free to try their hands at those big money bracket races you all like to point out, and claim is the future.
Knock yourself out, and best of luck. You'll have better luck at your local taxpayer-funded, local government-hack lobbying, downtrodden-town, who lost its industry and real source of revenue's casino.
And yes that was a hellacious run-on sentence.
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Old 07-13-2020, 06:30 PM   #77
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Updated scorecard Monday 7-13....NHRA 1 - JFR 0 ......
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Old 07-13-2020, 06:30 PM   #78
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I am not sure if anyone did more of the math from the past weekend race at Indy. Not just the Force team should be the big worry. I dont think they had enough fans to even cover the staff for the merchandising trailer or the food stands. Not to mention that DSR had 25% of the nitro cars (4 top fuel and 4 funny car) and 2 of those Fuelers are just on 2 race deals. What happens when Connie Kalitta finally retires he has 3 cars. How about when Chandler stops paying for Beckman and Johnson Jr. Yes the drop in purse is sad but not the biggest problem they are going to have. Did any of the staff at head office take a pay cut? as they are shortend race weekends.
As far as the world of big bucks bracket racing it seems very alive and well with a ton of cars and some fierce competition. It will be very interesting to see how the rest of this season goes. Grab some popcorn this is going to be good.

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Old 07-14-2020, 08:18 AM   #79
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NHRA survived the retirement of Garlits, Prudhomme, Glidden and every other star. It will survive the loss of Force--and his organization if he shuts it all down after he retires.

Hard to tell what NHRA will look like in the future though. It could be sold, split, or just continue as it has. The people in charge have to be careful with the gimmicks and enhancements that the marketing and TV "experts" are trying to use to attract the "casual" fan. They are in danger of jumping the shark like NASCAR has and alienating the hardcore people.

The legacy sportsman classes are mostly populated by old guys. I don't see a strategy to attract young people to those classes. A good start would be to stop treating them like a redheaded step child, stop trying to squeeze every nickle they can out of them and pay some damn money. There were 700 people who showed up, and paid thousands in entry fees to race for big money last weekend - and it's happening other places almost every weekend. I'm not saying they have to pay $1.1m or even $100k, but c'mon guys. Look at where your GOAT sportsman guys are going.

I hope they figure it out, stop trying to be all things to all people and avoid ending up being the next IHRA.

I've always said they were chasing Nascar, drag racing is FAR different-never happen. But of course Nascar has been on a downswing for years. To the point where the All-Star Race at Bristol tomorrow night will have the door numbers towards the back (wooo!) and NEON LIGHTS on the suspensions. What "gimmicks" is NHRA contemplating??!
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Old 07-14-2020, 08:33 AM   #80
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If NHRA ever goes away I'm sure the class racers will adapt and go bracket racing or buy a boat. The real question is what are all the doom and gloom people on here going to do, how will they survive without spreading fear on a daily basis. Pray for the NHRA and God bless Donald J. Trump in 2020!!!!
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