AA/SA Sorensen @ Woodburn

[Bill Edgeworth]

Allan,
Don’t let Mr. Ed the incompetent old fool that he is rattle you too much. He probably can’t afford to use his welfare check to protest someone. I think he probably lashes out this way because of his personal incompetence and inadequacies. My wife has a ward full of patents just like him. Maybe I could get her ward Psychiatrist to read some of his posts and decide on the best course of medication for him.

Alan, you have written some graceful posts accurately describing the situation yet Mr. Ed is not capable of listening to reason and obviously detached from reality.


The only thing he is very good at is getting the rest of us pissed off, making baseless accusations with his limited knowledge and insulting people outside of this discussion. Like his last post how deplorable.

Bring it on Mr. Ed lets hear more of your banter you’re a disgrace to this sport.

[Alan Roehrich]

I think Ed actually won a race last year. Which is a lot better than I did last year. I'll give him that.

Ed doesn't really upset me. He's a minor annoyance at best. Ed is sort of like those liberals Reagan used to talk about, the ones that "know so much that isn't so".

[bill dedman]

One more time: How long do you think those blown Mustangs are going to allow this old Chevy to keep this record?

It will boil down to whether and when their egos overrule their common sense, I guess. I'd bet all I own that they can reset this much-discussed record anytime it strikes their fancy... Like I said, "136 mph is a long way from 140."

True, they haven't hooked one of these powerhouses up in 60-feet, yet, but I wouldn't bet that they won't, given the motivation. With 700+ horsepower, and an NHRA factor of 425, how can they NOT run roughshod over Sorensen, Shaul, and anyone else that attempts to dominate AA/SA?

And, when it happens, all this angst about the legality of the semi-hemi will be thrown into a cocked hat.

Look for it at a strip near you, soon, unless I miss my guess... Somebody will turn one loose.

[Jared Jordan]

Unless I'm mistaken, there is already a head CC rule for Stock Eliminator and I assume that the head was poured by an NHRA Official.

"Rulebook legal" may not mean what it once did, but at least there are objective standards to gauge the legality of a cylinder head as opposed to the subjectivity that reigned for 30+ years. The only cheating NHRA cannot eliminate the subjectivity from is acid-porting and it's my understanding that the 427 has a big enough intake port that it's not necessary to make them bigger to go fast a la the 360 Mopar.

[Alan Roehrich]

Jared, you are correct, there is a CC rule in Stock. I do not know if the heads from Sorenson's car were poured. Supposedly all Stock teardowns are to include a volume check of the runners and chambers. But yes, the ports on a big block are plenty big. In fact, they do not respond to the now legal "bowl hog" modification, open up the ports, especially with 0.520" lift, and it will not recover on the shift.

If Ed actually knew anything about the heads, and what does or does not make them fast, he'd know that what he is claiming doesn't ring true at all. Of course, Ed could surprise us all and tell us exactly what it is that has supposedly been done to those heads. Because "ported", and "acid ported" ain't gonna work. If you know so much Ed, tell us where metal was removed, moved, or added. Anyone who knows about heads will know immediately whether or not you know what you are talking about. They'll know whether it can be spotted in tech, too.

Ed, I have a Super Stock engine in the shop. I can tell you for certain that the rockers, studs, and lifters for the Stock engine are well less than 1/2 the price of the stuff for the Super Stock engine. Try buying the Jesel stuff that goes on a Super Stock engine sometime Ed. You might learn something.

I suppose you are hung up on the rumor that flew around 2-3 years ago about supposed "tunnel ram" dual plane Chevy big block intakes. Well, they were supposedly made out of two "163" intakes. I personally saw the one everyone was claiming was made that way. It looked and measured exactly the same as the "163" intake we ran at the time, and still have. And the "359" intake is better. The thing is, Ed, the intake isn't the restriction. You can put a high dollar Super Stock intake on a Stock 427/425, and it won't pick up 0.05. Been there, done that, the intake I have came from a real fast Super Stock car. And none of the guys who sometimes run Super Stock with a Stock 427/425 car swap intakes when running Super Stock. Because it doesn't help. The whole thing is just another bunch of smoke and mirrors, created to deflect attention from another make and model of car.

[X-TECH MAN]

[QUOTE=Ed OBrien; I said was they are not pure as in untouched meaning there are a lot of things that can be done other than the legal valve job

Works well on some brands/family of engines and dosent do squat on others. Been there....done that.

[art leong]

Originally Posted by Ed OBrien

Alan
The tech men can only do what Danny let's them do and that is the problem . I'm not saying that the Sorensen's are doing anything others might not be doing and they are just better at it what I'm saying is the way the Rule book reads the intake and heads are not legal end of story . The only way this can be fixed is to change the rules to what's going on and ck the CC's , the lift on the cam , the carb , the tops of the piston's and casting #'s and stand back . We spend more money on lifters and rocker arms then some SS cars and why ? Is there an answer or a way out of this mess ? You bet fire Danny he's been there way too long and has way too many " Friends " and put a real tech man in charge and bring out a new rule book with all the rules and stick with it . I will still give $500.00 for that $300 intake off Sorensen's car after a 9.60 pass and you tell me why they would pass on heads up run's in Stock to run SS at the next race . Why would you build the fastest car in stock and then not use it ? Have a nice day

Ed after reading through this novel. It is sort of off topic . But I have to ask you a question? What brand turbo did you run on your LeBaron?. Was it a Garret or a Mitsubishi?
Just wondering?

[Geerhead55]

Seems Joe is going Superstock racing this weekend,,,,,,according to the entry list. Check it out, SS/CA. That could be interesting. I'm looking forward to watching this all unfold. Danny Durham

[Harry 6674]

Maybe with the 10.35 index in SS/CA we'll see how fast the big dog really is.

[Karl]

Originally Posted by Ed OBrien

Why is he in SS ? If you had the fastest legal A/SA car in the land wouldn't you want a chance at a few heads up runs ? There must be lots of good reasons for this that make sense anyone have one ? Have a nice day

Just to give another thing to whine about Ed, and thank you so much for wishing us all to have a nice day.