Erica & Greg?

[D.Johns]

"huge" is a relative term lol. In Prostock more then .05 or 2 mph is a mountain so to speak. The guys racing this class competitively is no small feat in of itself. It's fun to watch when one team figures something out and the rest of the field scramble to figure out what they did. The veil of secrecy is so interesting. Team summit, Edwards and Johnson(among others) has had their moments where they were the team to beat.

I want to get to racing as fast as I can but I do not posses the funds for that kind of effort yet. So unless I can join a team my options are limited. But if the opportunity is there I will certainly work towards achieving my goal and make my own opportunities as well.

[SBDART]

Originally Posted by Ed Wright

That's one fast Dodge! And Roy, the HP man, is a very nice guy.

And i love it.. Its about time too..

This Erica & Greg thing is very funny too....

[Ed Wright]

Originally Posted by SBDART

And i love it.. Its about time too..

This Erica & Greg thing is very funny too....

He has been fast a lot. I'm very impressed with them. Edwards is my favorite, but I've known Mike since right after he got out of high school. I personally don't care what it says on the valve covers. There is not much GM, Ford or MOPAR in any of them. I think that brand crap is idiocy. Not near enough OEM in any of those cars to mean anything.

[davidhuff]

Originally Posted by Ed Wright

He has been fast a lot. I'm very impressed with them. Edwards is my favorite, but I've known Mike since right after he got out of high school. I personally don't care what it says on the valve covers. There is not much GM, Ford or MOPAR in any of them. I think that brand crap is idiocy. Not near enough OEM in any of those cars to mean anything.

Edwards is my favorite also,great guy and great racer!

[cutta]

Thats because people always think of new parts in the perspective of how they relate to older/current OEM designs when in fact, that is not what characterizes the part that comes forth. If it was developed/produced/machined or given an OEM part number, it becomes a part characterized by that particular OEM thus making it a GM/Ford/Mopar product. New designs and thinking in relation to parts that are produced should not be written off as aftermarket blah blah, but rather a part developed by an OEM as an OEM design. The fact that the OEM produced/designed/bought/machined the part makes it worthy of being called a GM or Mopar or Ford product. Everything developed by an OEM does not have to build off a design directly related to its' past or current products. The new thinking that produces these parts should be welcomed and attributed to the OEM that produced them. Just because it doesn't resemble past designs doesn't mean it can't be Mopar/GM/Ford, but rather maybe its a new idea being brought to the table instead. Sorry for the long rant but I wanted to share a different perspective on things and I know I will be in the minority here. Don't be me up too bad fellas

PS: The first thing my dad does when seeing a new part, is compare it or call it something that came about in the 1960 or 70's. Sometimes new parts are just that, newly reformed parts with no resemblance/similarity to past designs.

[Ed Wright]

Only thing from GM is two head castings and a roof panel and I'm not sure about the rear quarter panels for the body. Four pieces. Before I started screwing around with my black car (was driving it to work at that time) I was getting in Edwards' way at the races. Right now I can't think of the guy's name in Indianapolis that was building so many Pro Stock engines, and was leasing them out. Anyway, he supposedly told one of Mike's guys he ported the new ( at that time) Chrysler heads with the same CNC program as the GMs. I've seen a set of Mike's heads as-delivered from GM. Unless something has changed they are raw castings. Not much of an OEM design there. Only a rough, about a 1", hole where an intake port would be. No seats, guides, etc. about four to six pieces from GM in the whole car. Same for the others. Big deal.

[Todd Boyer]

Originally Posted by Ed Wright

There is not much GM, Ford or MOPAR in any of them. I think that brand crap is idiocy. Not near enough OEM in any of those cars to mean anything.

Dead on, Ed !!!

[Todd Boyer]

Originally Posted by Ed Wright

Only thing from GM is two head castings and a roof panel and I'm not sure about the rear quarter panels for the body. Four pieces. Before I started screwing around with my black car (was driving it to work at that time) I was getting in Edwards' way at the races. Right now I can't think of the guy's name in Indianapolis that was building so many Pro Stock engines, and was leasing them out. Anyway, he supposedly told one of Mike's guys he ported the new ( at that time) Chrysler heads with the same CNC program as the GMs. I've seen a set of Mike's heads as-delivered from GM. Unless something has changed they are raw castings. Not much of an OEM design there. Only a rough, about a 1", hole where an intake port would be. No seats, guides, etc. about four to six pieces from GM in the whole car. Same for the others. Big deal.

Aftermarket head castings with a "factory" part number and CNC ports. When Dale Eicke took over the Mopar program after the Wayne County "break in", I remember reading that he had a set of Pontiac heads "blessed" with a Mopar part number. It's my contention that those "factory" part numbers are assigned to parts that are developed by individuals (Glidden, Roy Johnson, WJ, Larry Morgan, Eicke etc) using manufacturers money and that manufacturer gets their name and part number on the part. The parts themselves don't resemble current assembly line parts in any way at all really.

[Ed Wright]

Todd, you are right. Warren developed one generation of the GM heads, and I read also the blocks. That would make them WJs, not GMs. Right? LOL

[Todd Boyer]

Originally Posted by Ed Wright

Todd, you are right. Warren developed one generation of the GM heads, and I read also the blocks. That would make them WJs, not GMs. Right? LOL

I'd say you're right, Ed !! I pretty much lost interest n Pro Stock after all that "nitrous cheating" crap came to light (Wayne County, Jerry Eckman, Billy Glidden - and I'd LOVE to believe WJ). That was 15 or more years ago, and nowadays it's even farther away from "stock", especially in appearance. The NHRA rule book back then said the cars had to use a factory roof and quarter panels. I'm sure that's not the case today. Possibly a "factory" roof panel as you say ????