Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers

[oldskool]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Never a Stocker .Larry built it from pieces he had on hand after he sold his 455 cars.
It's just a mild combo that he foot brakes.

Don't forget about Larry's event winning 74 GTO for the other thread.

OK, that's another car I don't know about. Need info and/or pics. Only other car I know of is the red Lemans he sold.

I believe this is the SS/IA car that Mike McKinney ran along time in the 80’s and early 90’s. It was red when Mike raced it. He was pictured in a Comp
Cams advertisement for a while doing a big wheelstand. His son Marty runs the car now in brackets these days. But the car is basically the same other then a bracket engine.

The car that Mike won stock at the 77 US Nationals, and also was won by Truman 4 years earlier is owned by Mark Waymouth and has been restored to race condition.

The car I own was Truman Fields last race car and was acquired from Mike and Roy in a trade for the original Hard Times 1. Truman took my car in trade from Roy. ( picture below 1977 )

Mike’s son Marty is on Facebook. He would be the guy to contact if your looking for info. I have talked to him several times over the years.

It’s cool all the information you’re posting about on here.
Lots of info on Facebook as well about and a ton of pictures coming up as well. As for this site. Pontiac’s have sort of died off in class racing. It’s a Ford, Chevy, and Mopar world these days. A few diehards left but that’s about it.

Just a time long ago when Pontiac’s were popular and prevalent. The NHRA won’t give us any replacement parts for these cars anymore so it’s tough to keep or want to keep them going. The few that are left run well and win races still. But just not that many overall.

Originally Posted by oldskool

While lookin thru my pics, I ran across this pic, of a SS/IA '68 Bird, I have labeled as Marty McKinney. Don't have a clue where I got it.

So, is this the same McKinney Bird we've been talkin about ?

Well, according to this thread, Marty is Mike's son. The poster said that Mike won SS at the '77 US Nats. But it was Stock that he won, in Truman Fields original Bird. The pics were from photobucket, so they don't work anymore(but I found it). The info is in posts #998948 & 998949. Photobucket has really messed up lots of car forums.

https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads...tml#Post998948

[oldskool]

Great info Todd ! Thanks !

I'll try to contact Marty. Sounds like the best way to get pics of all their stuff.

"...The car I own was Truman Fields last race car and was acquired from Mike and Roy in a trade for the original Hard Times 1. Truman took my car in trade from Roy. ( picture below 1977 )..."

So then, that means that the car he raced at the 2006 Gator Nats, is the car you have now ?

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2006#indextop

What color was it when he raced at the Gators ? Was this the same car that was burgandy ? I know you've explained this to me before. But hey, I'm old. So I'll use that for an excuse.

So, are we only talking about 3 '68 Birds here. (1) The original 2-time Indy winner, which has been restored. (2) The traded car that you have now. (3) The former McKinney SS/IA car that Marty is bracket racing now. Have I got it all straight now ? Or were there more than 3 Birds involved here ?

If I have it right, the original is restored, as a piece of Pontiac history. Yours is still an active Stocker. And Marty is now bracket racing with the McKinney SS/IA car. Does that sound right ?

As far as I'm concerned, all these cars are an important part of Pontiac history, because Truman was my 1st Pontiac hero, and the McKinney's got their claim to fame with Truman's car.

PS: WOW ! Looks like Marty's FB page has all the pics I'll need. I'll download 'em & post some here. I sent Marty a friend request, so I can get more info. I know the last 3 pics are of a Stocker. But it's a bit of Pontiac history. So, I'm posting it on the SS thread, also.

[oldskool]

OK, I've already mentioned the '69 SS Bird that Keri Angeles Pari drives. I don't know of another '69 SS Bird. If ya'll know of another, past or current, please post that info.

For now, lets move on to early 2nd gen Birds. I don't think very many have ever tried a '70 model. But, beginning in '71, when the 455HO engine came along, I assume there have been several of these '71-'72 455HO cars run in SS, thru the years.

So, can you guys name some of 'em ?

I can't think of a one. But, there have been a few '73's running SS, because of the SD455 engine. Still some running. I've mentioned Russ Abrams and John & J.B. Clegg. Found a pic of Bob Michael in a '73 SD455 Formy. The pic is not very good. Does anybody have or know where to find a better pic of this car, as well as any other SS Pontiac he's had ? Anybody know what happened to this Bob Michael car, or how it ran ?

[bobbyd6]

Carroll Warling from Colorado has been racing fast Pontiacs for decades!!! Lots of #1 Qualifiers & National Records & several race wins to back it up!!!

[oldskool]

Originally Posted by bobbyd6

Carroll Warling from Colorado has been racing fast Pontiacs for decades!!! Lots of #1 Qualifiers & National Records & several race wins to back it up!!!

Yes, That's all true. But we've already had a couple of posts about his cars.

Here are the links.

http://classracer.com/classforum/sho...1&postcount=28

http://classracer.com/classforum/sho...1&postcount=58

[Mike Jones]

Get some sleep

[oldskool]

Originally Posted by Mike Jones

Get some sleep

LOL !

If you weren't still awake, you wouldn't know that I am.

[Ed Wright]

Several years back Gary & Ann Moore had some good running Pontiac Stock & Super Stock cars in Div 4.

[oldskool]

Originally Posted by Ed Wright

Several years back Gary & Ann Moore had some good running Pontiac Stock & Super Stock cars in Div 4.

The only Gary Moore I've ever heard of was on the "I've Got a Secret" TV show, many moons ago.


But, div 4 is my div. So, I am real interested in learning all I can about their Pontiacs. So, anybody with info/pics, please post.

That jogged my memory. Back when I had my Stockers, local tracks quit running class, & switched to brackets. But, one track kept a class they called Street Modified. A small cube Super Stock car would have worked good in that class. It was just a lbs per cubic inch class, using NHRA legal weights. Roller cams, Holley carbs, big tires, & ladder bars were legal.

It was a class designed for high rpm small cube engines. I had no chance, with a Pontiac engine. But, I couldn't run in Stock any more, so I decided to give it a try. Big mistake. I found a cheap(they were all cheap back then) '68 Bird 'vert & Put some roll bars in it. Got the 'vert because it could run at a heavier weight.

Anyhow, my engine builder, in Shreveport, did the machine work on lots of race stuff, including one SS Pontiac. He contacted the Pontiac guy, & got me one of his old solid roller cams. But, some new guys opened a machine shop in a small town, only about 30 miles from me. Their head guy was from CA, and supposedly had lots of experience. Hey, they even had a TF dragster.

So, I figured they knew what they were doing. WRONG ! They didn't know anything about Pontiac engines. I got it running, then had to take it back for new oil rings, and a sleeve, before even taking it to the track.

Anyhow, I finally got it to the track. Hey it SOUNDED good. It was my first roller cam engine. Of course it wasn't near quick enuff to run with the sbc engines, in the lbs per cubic inch class. It wasn't bracket racing. 1st car to the finish line won.

It did run quicker than our Stockers, but not competitive in that class. But we did make a couple of races, & TJ got to make a lot of noise & go quicker than she'd gone in the Stocker. Then "boom". Rod out the side. Discovered that it was the machine shop's fault. I think they only lasted one year. Must have messed up some other stuff too.

Hey, I won't charge ya'll anything for that little bit of Pontiac racing history !