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Old 01-08-2022, 08:55 AM   #81
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SCCA gets around the parts availability problem by having a 30 year rule. No car older than 30 years in national competition in "Street" (which is the closest class to NHRA Stock). It does provide a progression to more modified classes as cars age out.

How many Stockers out there are older than 30 years compared to newer? Would you rather have a 30 year rule or pay $2K for lifters?
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Old 01-08-2022, 08:57 AM   #82
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Old 01-08-2022, 09:07 AM   #83
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Got one 52 years old, one 36, and the ''New" one is 7.
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SCCA gets around the parts availability problem by having a 30 year rule. No car older than 30 years in national competition in "Street" (which is the closest class to NHRA Stock). It does provide a progression to more modified classes as cars age out.

How many Stockers out there are older than 30 years compared to newer? Would you rather have a 30 year rule or pay $2K for lifters?
Good luck trying to get that to fly! The funny thing is, I (me, Billy Nees) would be OK with this. It would sure get NHRA's Natl. Event fields where they (NHRA) want them to be.

Let's look at this another way, "would you rather have a 30 year rule" or a valve spring rule?
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Old 01-08-2022, 09:58 AM   #85
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Let's look at this another way, "would you rather have a 30 year rule" or a valve spring rule?
NHRA started the "new" Stock Eliminator in 1972 with a 20 year rule and it didn't fly.

Valve spring rule gets my vote.
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Old 01-08-2022, 10:53 AM   #86
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NHRA started the "new" Stock Eliminator in 1972 with a 20 year rule and it didn't fly.

Valve spring rule gets my vote.
remember, well. Run rollers gets my vote.
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remember, well. Run rollers gets my vote.
Roller lifters have been OEM in many motors starting in the 1990s. There is probably 1/3+- of the current stockers using them now. Many if not all were originally hydraulic. It would be naive to believe cam grinders are not taking advantage of having a roller lifter for those motors. Other advantages of these combos are programmable ecu's and efi.
I don't believe rollers for everyone are another step towards SS. Having them available to all would take that advantage away from the "modern" combos.
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Old 01-08-2022, 11:55 AM   #88
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AND on a stocker we're (correct me if I'm thinking wrong) not allowed to change that and it does come into play on a BBC.
200 lbs might work on a small valve motor.
You would think that if pushrod to lifter angle was a major concern, the 273/318/340/360 MoPar "LA" engines would be the most effected.
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Old 01-08-2022, 12:02 PM   #89
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remember, well. Run rollers gets my vote.
Terry, if I might ask here.. What combo is your car ? OEM hydraulics or solids?
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Old 01-08-2022, 12:13 PM   #90
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Terry, if I might ask here.. What combo is your car ? OEM hydraulics or solids?
BBC OEM Hydraulic
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