Dan Fletcher.... The Norwalk Cancellation - Page 4

BOB KIRKBRIDE · 06-21-2019, 09:10 AM

Being is this has been an ongoing problem at this track, why during the dry time of year why haven't they graded that area and at least put in base rock, graded it and compacted it with a roller? Problem solved,

340Cuda · 06-21-2019, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by BOB KIRKBRIDE

Being is this has been an ongoing problem at this track, why during the dry time of year why haven't they graded that area and at least put in base rock, graded it and compacted it with a roller? Problem solved, guess they are too cheap.

I have never heard anyone say the Baders were cheap. They have spent millions on that track and if you have ever been there it shows.

Somethings make economic sense and some don't.

John Dinkel · 06-21-2019, 10:52 AM

The Best Track in Division 3 and Ice Cream too.

Tony Fagnilli · 06-21-2019, 11:16 AM

[QUOTE=BOB KIRKBRIDE;591047]Being is this has been an ongoing problem at this track, why during the dry time of year why haven't they graded that area and at least put in base rock, graded it and compacted it with a roller? Problem solved, guess they are too cheap.[

this actually made me laugh out loud

jwsamuel · 06-21-2019, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BOB KIRKBRIDE

Being is this has been an ongoing problem at this track, why during the dry time of year why haven't they graded that area and at least put in base rock, graded it and compacted it with a roller? Problem solved, guess they are too cheap.

Do you know the soil conditions in the area? The height of the water table? What is under the top soil there? The drainage for the entire area? If the Baders graded the track, they would be creating runoff water that would have to go somewhere. Where would it go?

carbuilder · 06-21-2019, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BOB KIRKBRIDE

Being is this has been an ongoing problem at this track, why during the dry time of year why haven't they graded that area and at least put in base rock, graded it and compacted it with a roller? Problem solved, guess they are too cheap.

I guess maybe we should come race at your track???? Seriously, with all the bad crap in this world and bitching about a rain out essentially,,,,,maybe some of you would rather they have you come,knowing full well what a mess it was going to be,and take your money ???? then some of you could bitch about that ???

I can ASSURE you Bill Bader is not cheap !!!!

Ive been to tracks from Michigan,to Florida,to Pomona and all the way to Seattle,,,,, Montreal and up and down the eastern seaboard, If you know a place better suited why dont you tell us about it??? SHEESH,,,, Get a life,,,its only a drag race after all !

In my humble opinion, your NOT going to find anwhere nicer !

Jon Sarrett · 06-22-2019, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BOB KIRKBRIDE

Being is this has been an ongoing problem at this track, why during the dry time of year why haven't they graded that area and at least put in base rock, graded it and compacted it with a roller? Problem solved, guess they are too cheap.

I assume you've never been to Norwalk? Bader just laid a million dollar plus racing surface and shutdown area last year. Guess he's too cheap though....

Countless times have I seen him cater to the racers and fans. I have raced from coast to coast and NEVER have I seen or heard of a track owner asking you to call him or email him if you are not 100% satisfied and followed with his cell phone number and email address. I guess he's too cheap to care though....

Bader does every single thing he asks his people to do. I've seen him running the lanes, working the water box, driving the scrub tractor, laying vht, emptying garbage cans, the guy does it all. Maybe he's too cheap to hire additional help....

4284spd · 06-22-2019, 12:25 PM

Norwalk is always going to be the coolest track.I love the lay out!

cicero819 · 06-22-2019, 12:56 PM

Hopefully the racers will get their full entry back, including insurance cost.You can't race when it's wet and it's really biblically wet.I was planning a trip to Norwalk this year but will concentrate on Divisional races(which is the best show for the bang except when the track personnel is kept at a minimum and the whole race is slowed due to unprepared racers and track officials). I still can't understand why NHRA or the participating tracks don't advertise on radio,newspaper and TV, it's a great show, far better than the pro show, with four people scrubbing the rocks off the slicks!.Look at the stands and you will see an empty grandstand if they decide to go with a pro only show.Time to start paying the sportsman racers for their show value also.

BOB KIRKBRIDE · 06-23-2019, 10:33 AM

OOOPS Cheap was the wrong word as far as the Baders go Yes, I was there once and as a retired paving and grading contractor I DO know what it is like dealing with different types of soil and wetness and high water table. We had that at the old Fremont drag strip in California. I got into racing when my uncle's paving and grading company paved the old Half Moon Bay Drag strip (in 1959) that was right on the coast. No water problems there, just not much shut off(!!) area So I'm old and that comment was ill advised but I think that base rock of inch and a half max or sub base two and a half inch max in those problem sportsman parking areas sure (hopefully) would have maybe made sportsman racing part of the show. SORRY, sincerely for the dumb comment! Please forgive me, guess I have been spoiled living in Las Vegas and racing here and a lot of other reasonably close tracks like Bakersfield and Phoenix with my Ford Thunderbolt N/SS in the twilight of my fun in my favorite sport I didn't mean to stir up a Hornet's nest that my dumb comment did, but us old farts sometimes let out the clutch in the wrong gear! LOL Sorry for fuffeling but I deserved to be taken to the woodshed for that comment. The sportsman racers were sure missed.

06-21-2019, 09:10 AM	#31
BOB KIRKBRIDE Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 62 Likes: 4 Liked 15 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Dan Fletcher.... The Norwalk Cancellation Being is this has been an ongoing problem at this track, why during the dry time of year why haven't they graded that area and at least put in base rock, graded it and compacted it with a roller? Problem solved, Last edited by BOB KIRKBRIDE; 06-23-2019 at 10:37 AM.

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John Dinkel Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Pinckney, Michigan Posts: 500 Likes: 349 Liked 233 Times in 62 Posts	Re: Dan Fletcher.... The Norwalk Cancellation The Best Track in Division 3 and Ice Cream too. __________________ John Dinkel 3295 STK

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Tony Fagnilli Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Posts: 84 Likes: 69 Liked 196 Times in 42 Posts	Re: Dan Fletcher.... The Norwalk Cancellation [QUOTE=BOB KIRKBRIDE;591047]Being is this has been an ongoing problem at this track, why during the dry time of year why haven't they graded that area and at least put in base rock, graded it and compacted it with a roller? Problem solved, guess they are too cheap.[ this actually made me laugh out loud

06-22-2019, 12:25 PM	#38
4284spd VIP Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Longmont Colorado Posts: 1,630 Likes: 756 Liked 3,818 Times in 874 Posts	Re: Dan Fletcher.... The Norwalk Cancellation Norwalk is always going to be the coolest track.I love the lay out! __________________ Bob Smith

06-22-2019, 12:56 PM	#39
cicero819 VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Aylmer Quebec, Canada Posts: 1,086 Likes: 31 Liked 67 Times in 29 Posts	Re: Dan Fletcher.... The Norwalk Cancellation Hopefully the racers will get their full entry back, including insurance cost.You can't race when it's wet and it's really biblically wet.I was planning a trip to Norwalk this year but will concentrate on Divisional races(which is the best show for the bang except when the track personnel is kept at a minimum and the whole race is slowed due to unprepared racers and track officials). I still can't understand why NHRA or the participating tracks don't advertise on radio,newspaper and TV, it's a great show, far better than the pro show, with four people scrubbing the rocks off the slicks!.Look at the stands and you will see an empty grandstand if they decide to go with a pro only show.Time to start paying the sportsman racers for their show value also.

06-23-2019, 10:33 AM	#40
BOB KIRKBRIDE Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 62 Likes: 4 Liked 15 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Dan Fletcher.... The Norwalk Cancellation OOOPS Cheap was the wrong word as far as the Baders go Yes, I was there once and as a retired paving and grading contractor I DO know what it is like dealing with different types of soil and wetness and high water table. We had that at the old Fremont drag strip in California. I got into racing when my uncle's paving and grading company paved the old Half Moon Bay Drag strip (in 1959) that was right on the coast. No water problems there, just not much shut off(!!) area So I'm old and that comment was ill advised but I think that base rock of inch and a half max or sub base two and a half inch max in those problem sportsman parking areas sure (hopefully) would have maybe made sportsman racing part of the show. SORRY, sincerely for the dumb comment! Please forgive me, guess I have been spoiled living in Las Vegas and racing here and a lot of other reasonably close tracks like Bakersfield and Phoenix with my Ford Thunderbolt N/SS in the twilight of my fun in my favorite sport I didn't mean to stir up a Hornet's nest that my dumb comment did, but us old farts sometimes let out the clutch in the wrong gear! LOL Sorry for fuffeling but I deserved to be taken to the woodshed for that comment. The sportsman racers were sure missed.