Original hemi dart information - Page 33

Paul Ceasrine · 01-08-2010, 06:34 AM

Mopar Steve,
Excellent photo sharing. Correct on the "Behemoth" G/SA car by
Bob Burkitt. Whenever a small white square with the letter "T"
appears on the front window, thats the NHRA Winternationals at
Pomona.
Sometimes the articles get the technical info scrambled. Do like the photo of Lee Sprague's 68' 340 Dart. F/S NHRA national record holder.
Jason,
Wonder if the 68' Hemi Dart was out-of-commision during the end of 69'?
PC

Jason Oldfield · 01-08-2010, 02:17 PM

Paul,

My uncle's Dart was definitely out of commission at the end of '69 due to a blown engine, like I mentioned earlier. But, according to my uncle, that was AFTER Indy, not before.

Steve,

I'm not saying those pictures AREN'T at Indy, but I personally can't identify them as being at Indy, nor can I positively identify that as my uncle behind the wheel. That said, if you'd like to do a high-resolution scan of that image and send it to me, I can tell you for sure whether it is my uncle driving (though unless there is some signage that definitively identifies the locale as Indy, I won't be able to help out in that department as I never saw Indy personally until about 2000).

PM me if you'd rather e-mail me a high resolution scan than post it here.

If nothing else, it will be fun to bust on my uncle about his memory failing!

Jason Oldfield · 01-08-2010, 05:31 PM

No sooner do I post that I don't have many pre-Missile pictures of my uncle, and I find this picture of his A/FX Comet:

I know it's not a Hemi Dart, but I thought it was somewhat related to the thread...

Jason Oldfield · 01-08-2010, 06:37 PM

Here's one from the same Webshots album, but of the car in question, the Iron Butterfly (with Wally Booth at the helm):

Barnstorm · 01-08-2010, 07:24 PM

Pretty good Butterfly thread currently over at Moparts.com

Paul Ceasrine · 01-09-2010, 05:39 AM

Jason,
At least we know your uncle was at Indy 68' with the Dart, SS/BA #1229.
In the Scat-Pack picture that Mopar Steve posted does show the
'Iron Butterfly' at Indy 69'. But I cannot see any Dick Oldfield lettering on the door panel, and there seems to be minimal decals on the front fender.
At the Dallas Finals 69' (2 months later), your uncle's name is lettered on the car, more decals on front fender and NHRA#1341 on the window.
Paul

Mopar Steve · 01-09-2010, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Ceasrine

Jason,
At least we know your uncle was at Indy 68' with the Dart, SS/BA #1229.
In the Scat-Pack picture that Mopar Steve posted does show the
'Iron Butterfly' at Indy 69'. But I cannot see any Dick Oldfield lettering on the door panel, and there seems to be minimal decals on the front fender.
At the Dallas Finals 69' (2 months later), your uncle's name is lettered on the car, more decals on front fender and NHRA#1341 on the window.
Paul

1341 was on the car all year. At Indy in '69, Wally Booth was listed as driving the Detroit Dodge Dealers '69 Super Bee. Dick Oldfield wasn't listed at all in the entry list, but the Iron Butterfly was, which I believe I posted before?

Paul Ceasrine · 01-09-2010, 04:02 PM

Mopar Steve,
Sorry 'bout that. you already posted that 'Butterfly' info.
My head is still spinning about that little 68' 340 Dart of Lee Sprague in F/Stock, putting away the 63' Plymouth C/SA Wagon of Tritak & Morgan.
I do have a photo of Dick Oldfield in the Dart at Niagara in 1969. The nicer paint job with 'Erie County Dodge Dealers' on the back quarter,
chrome slotted mags for the front, Cragars on the rear.
PC (Go Hummer II)

Jason Oldfield · 01-09-2010, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Ceasrine

Mopar Steve,
I do have a photo of Dick Oldfield in the Dart at Niagara in 1969. The nicer paint job with 'Erie County Dodge Dealers' on the back quarter,
chrome slotted mags for the front, Cragars on the rear.
PC (Go Hummer II)

And you haven't posted it or e-mailed it to me why?

Paul Ceasrine · 01-10-2010, 05:03 AM

Jason,
I apologize for not posting that. Currently using a dial-up network. Changing to Charter Communications (cable) in February. Impossible to download photo's. Unless you want me to mail it. * Starting line shot at Niagara. Car with the dark-painted roof and hood-scoop "The Good Guys" on the door, with Dick Oldfield lettered under-neath (lower door panel). 1969 circa
Paul

01-08-2010, 06:34 AM	#321
Paul Ceasrine VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,546 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 10 Posts	Re: Original hemi dart information Mopar Steve, Excellent photo sharing. Correct on the "Behemoth" G/SA car by Bob Burkitt. Whenever a small white square with the letter "T" appears on the front window, thats the NHRA Winternationals at Pomona. Sometimes the articles get the technical info scrambled. Do like the photo of Lee Sprague's 68' 340 Dart. F/S NHRA national record holder. Jason, Wonder if the 68' Hemi Dart was out-of-commision during the end of 69'? PC

01-08-2010, 02:17 PM	#322
Jason Oldfield Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 619 Likes: 1 Liked 10 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Original hemi dart information Paul, My uncle's Dart was definitely out of commission at the end of '69 due to a blown engine, like I mentioned earlier. But, according to my uncle, that was AFTER Indy, not before. Steve, I'm not saying those pictures AREN'T at Indy, but I personally can't identify them as being at Indy, nor can I positively identify that as my uncle behind the wheel. That said, if you'd like to do a high-resolution scan of that image and send it to me, I can tell you for sure whether it is my uncle driving (though unless there is some signage that definitively identifies the locale as Indy, I won't be able to help out in that department as I never saw Indy personally until about 2000). PM me if you'd rather e-mail me a high resolution scan than post it here. If nothing else, it will be fun to bust on my uncle about his memory failing! __________________ Jason Oldfield S/G & S/St 1838

01-08-2010, 05:31 PM	#323
Jason Oldfield Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 619 Likes: 1 Liked 10 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Original hemi dart information No sooner do I post that I don't have many pre-Missile pictures of my uncle, and I find this picture of his A/FX Comet: I know it's not a Hemi Dart, but I thought it was somewhat related to the thread... __________________ Jason Oldfield S/G & S/St 1838

01-08-2010, 06:37 PM	#324
Jason Oldfield Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 619 Likes: 1 Liked 10 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Original hemi dart information Here's one from the same Webshots album, but of the car in question, the Iron Butterfly (with Wally Booth at the helm): __________________ Jason Oldfield S/G & S/St 1838

01-08-2010, 07:24 PM	#325
Barnstorm Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Minnesota Posts: 186 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Original hemi dart information Pretty good Butterfly thread currently over at Moparts.com

01-09-2010, 05:39 AM	#326
Paul Ceasrine VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,546 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 10 Posts	Re: Original hemi dart information Jason, At least we know your uncle was at Indy 68' with the Dart, SS/BA #1229. In the Scat-Pack picture that Mopar Steve posted does show the 'Iron Butterfly' at Indy 69'. But I cannot see any Dick Oldfield lettering on the door panel, and there seems to be minimal decals on the front fender. At the Dallas Finals 69' (2 months later), your uncle's name is lettered on the car, more decals on front fender and NHRA#1341 on the window. Paul

01-09-2010, 04:02 PM	#328
Paul Ceasrine VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,546 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 10 Posts	Re: Original hemi dart information Mopar Steve, Sorry 'bout that. you already posted that 'Butterfly' info. My head is still spinning about that little 68' 340 Dart of Lee Sprague in F/Stock, putting away the 63' Plymouth C/SA Wagon of Tritak & Morgan. I do have a photo of Dick Oldfield in the Dart at Niagara in 1969. The nicer paint job with 'Erie County Dodge Dealers' on the back quarter, chrome slotted mags for the front, Cragars on the rear. PC (Go Hummer II)

01-10-2010, 05:03 AM	#330
Paul Ceasrine VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,546 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 10 Posts	Re: Original hemi dart information Jason, I apologize for not posting that. Currently using a dial-up network. Changing to Charter Communications (cable) in February. Impossible to download photo's. Unless you want me to mail it. * Starting line shot at Niagara. Car with the dark-painted roof and hood-scoop "The Good Guys" on the door, with Dick Oldfield lettered under-neath (lower door panel). 1969 circa Paul