Wheelie Bar Kit Choices/recommendations

OkieRocket · 09-19-2022, 07:30 PM

What type of Wheelie Bar Kits do you guys recommend? I have a 70 Olds 442 "older" Super Stock Car that I have redone to a 4-Link Set up for ET Bracket Racing.
I can definitely handle TIG Welding the Components, but would like a 4-Link design Wheelie Bar Kit (i.e., that doesn't require any welding to the Tubes of the Rear End.). I have a Mark Williams Modular 9" Rear End (4.30: 1 Ratio) under the Car with upper and lower Rod End Bolt Bosses/Brackets, so having a "4-point" Rod End connection for the Wheelie Bar Links would be most desireable.
FYI.....The Car weights around 3,900 lbs. with me in it. 765HP Olds 455, Rossler TH400 Trans., 5500 Converter, AFCO front & rear Adj. Shocks and 14x 31 Goodyear Slicks. Shift at 7,100 RPM.
Any recommendations would be appreciated on "Kit" info., as well as Bar Length and Tube diameter recommendationsl.

Thanks in advance.

Harold

Jim Whitehead · 09-19-2022, 09:42 PM

Check out Ken Keir race cars.

CMcAllister · 09-20-2022, 01:43 AM

How violently the car leaves and how hard the car gets on the bars, will determine the parts, pieces and design of the bars.

Does it need and use the bars? Or are they a "just in case" safety device?

Sprung or unsprung? Stick guys have always wanted sprung. Especially if they are on the short side.

Length? This is often a function of how close to the backdoor the car is in the trailer and if you are willing to install and remove them every time you load the car.

Material size? Diameter, wall thickness.

Budget?

You may end up sourcing parts and pieces from a few different places to get the exact configuration you desire.

Matt S · 09-20-2022, 12:11 PM

Very highly recommend Ken Keir Race Cars. Workmanship is top notch, only exceeded by their customer service.

OkieRocket · 09-22-2022, 07:36 PM

Thanks for the responses and referral to Ken Keir Race Cars.

Also.....CMcAllister, Special Thanks for the very detailed reply...some stuff I hadn't even considered....like being able to "fit" the Car with Bars into the Trailer...

FYI, The Bars may not be a necessity at this point??..I'm trying to head off possible future troubles, just in case. As I've moved the Engine rearward ~ 5" in the chassis, I'm thinking they may be a good idea.

Also, I'm thinking 4130 tubes (maybe 1" OD x 0.095" wall - or whatever is recommended) with Rod Ends at all 4 points. Maybe 60" long - equipped with Springs.

I also do a lot of 4130 TIG Welding, so "assembly/fabricating" shouldn't be an issue for me. As far as a Budget...I'm hoping $ 500 or less for the Kit, or components.

Attached is a Photo of the Rear of the Car to give you a better idea of what I have for a set up.

Thanks again.
Harold

09-19-2022, 07:30 PM	#1
OkieRocket Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 41 Likes: 12 Liked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Wheelie Bar Kit Choices/recommendations What type of Wheelie Bar Kits do you guys recommend? I have a 70 Olds 442 "older" Super Stock Car that I have redone to a 4-Link Set up for ET Bracket Racing. I can definitely handle TIG Welding the Components, but would like a 4-Link design Wheelie Bar Kit (i.e., that doesn't require any welding to the Tubes of the Rear End.). I have a Mark Williams Modular 9" Rear End (4.30: 1 Ratio) under the Car with upper and lower Rod End Bolt Bosses/Brackets, so having a "4-point" Rod End connection for the Wheelie Bar Links would be most desireable. FYI.....The Car weights around 3,900 lbs. with me in it. 765HP Olds 455, Rossler TH400 Trans., 5500 Converter, AFCO front & rear Adj. Shocks and 14x 31 Goodyear Slicks. Shift at 7,100 RPM. Any recommendations would be appreciated on "Kit" info., as well as Bar Length and Tube diameter recommendationsl. Thanks in advance. Harold

09-19-2022, 09:42 PM	#2
Jim Whitehead Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: MA. Posts: 276 Likes: 128 Liked 145 Times in 38 Posts	Re: Wheelie Bar Kit Choices/recommendations Check out Ken Keir race cars. Last edited by Jim Whitehead; 09-20-2022 at 10:20 AM.

09-20-2022, 01:43 AM	#3
CMcAllister Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Fulton County, PA Posts: 533 Likes: 9 Liked 745 Times in 206 Posts	Re: Wheelie Bar Kit Choices/recommendations How violently the car leaves and how hard the car gets on the bars, will determine the parts, pieces and design of the bars. Does it need and use the bars? Or are they a "just in case" safety device? Sprung or unsprung? Stick guys have always wanted sprung. Especially if they are on the short side. Length? This is often a function of how close to the backdoor the car is in the trailer and if you are willing to install and remove them every time you load the car. Material size? Diameter, wall thickness. Budget? You may end up sourcing parts and pieces from a few different places to get the exact configuration you desire.

09-20-2022, 12:11 PM	#4
Matt S Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 96 Likes: 0 Liked 20 Times in 12 Posts	Re: Wheelie Bar Kit Choices/recommendations Very highly recommend Ken Keir Race Cars. Workmanship is top notch, only exceeded by their customer service.

09-22-2022, 07:36 PM	#5
OkieRocket Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 41 Likes: 12 Liked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Re: Wheelie Bar Kit Choices/recommendations Thanks for the responses and referral to Ken Keir Race Cars. Also.....CMcAllister, Special Thanks for the very detailed reply...some stuff I hadn't even considered....like being able to "fit" the Car with Bars into the Trailer... FYI, The Bars may not be a necessity at this point??..I'm trying to head off possible future troubles, just in case. As I've moved the Engine rearward ~ 5" in the chassis, I'm thinking they may be a good idea. Also, I'm thinking 4130 tubes (maybe 1" OD x 0.095" wall - or whatever is recommended) with Rod Ends at all 4 points. Maybe 60" long - equipped with Springs. I also do a lot of 4130 TIG Welding, so "assembly/fabricating" shouldn't be an issue for me. As far as a Budget...I'm hoping $ 500 or less for the Kit, or components. Attached is a Photo of the Rear of the Car to give you a better idea of what I have for a set up. Thanks again. Harold Attached Thumbnails