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Old 01-03-2023, 10:50 PM   #31
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Default Re: 1967-68 SS/C-D Hemi B-Body: Cold Air or Flat Hood?

Steve Sasko -

- I found a pic of a 1963 MW ‘Iron Butterfly’.....are you sure the Hemi version came along so much later?
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Old 01-03-2023, 11:30 PM   #32
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Steve Sasko -

- I found a pic of a 1963 MW ‘Iron Butterfly’.....are you sure the Hemi version came along so much later?
Yes. It was Ted's wife, Tina's, personal car. Tina told me herself that Ted took the car and made a race car out of it. This car was built for Indy in 1969...the automatic equivalent to Vanke's '65 Belvedere.

EDIT...That is a '64 car in your picture. Wally drove at Indy, Dick Oldfield at Dallas.

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65 A990 Race Hemis - Car, Driver, Team

* Dodge Power - Gene Takash This was a '67 440 R/t Converted to a Hemi car
* Porters Pride - Bob Porter - Richard Porter, Mansfield, Ohio Porter was from Minford Ohio
* Dodge Boys - Dave Strickler Strickler only had an AWB car, the standard wheelbase car he ran at Indy was borrowed from Bob Lawliss
* Go Hummer — Mary Ann Foss - Also raced as Dependable - Wes Koogle - Mansfield OH. Koogle was the original owner.
* Pandemonium — Frank Pelligrino '64 car
* Yankee Peddler — Bill Flynn Converted to AWB after the Winternationals
* Hemi Honker - Bud Faubel (Chambersburg PA) Only had an AWB car in '65, the AWB cars were not counted in regular A990 production
* Flying Carpet - Bob Harrop - (Camden NJ) Probably two cars, one AWB, one ran S/SA at Indy in 1965 Standard wheelbase car was borrowed, similar to Strickler
* Hall & Heath - David Heath -(Owensboro KY) Kentucky Colonel
* Landy’s Dodge - Dick Landy - (Sherman Oaks CA) Only had an AWB, no standard wheelbase car
* O.B. Hewett - Melvin Yow - (Fayetteville NC) Owner Built Hardtop
* Hemi Express - Jim Clark Not original owner
* Mrs Bee’s Hemi - Jim Thornton Never saw where Thornton drove this? I know Bill Stiles did
* Lawrence Apodaca, Hayword, Ca. No '65 car, had a '67 W0 Dodge
* Moonshot - Candies and Hughes This was a '64 car, became the Jake's Speed Equipment car
* Hemi-Powered Plymouth - Derwood Reep - Joe Ralph Thompson - Jefferson Motors, AR '64 Max Wedge Plymouth converted to AWB with '65 front end
* Tim Richards Did not have a '65 Hemi car
* Golden Commandoes - Al Eckstrand AWB Hardtop car only, not original A990
* Ramchargers - Jim Thornton - Hodges Dodges AWB Hardtop car only, not original A990
* Melrose Missile- Tommy Grove AWB Hardtop car only, not original A990
* Color Me Gone- Roger Lindamood AWB Hardtop, did not have an A990
* Flintstone Flying Commando - Dave Koffel HAd two '65 cars, both original A990 cars. One raced as 273 in C/FX, the other was the former "Outlaw" car from Kentucky, and Koffel made into an AWB car
* Mountain Hemi - Harold Hurley - Doug Hurley Not original owners
* Outlaw - Sonny Wayland Outlaw and Sonny Wayland were two separate cars, the Outlaw became Koffel's AWB car
* Hemi Charger - Russ Funk
* Giddy up a go go - Big Ed Seems to be a jumble on Holwick's car and Ed Knezevich? Both were from Ohio and already listed here
* California Flash - Butch Leal Had AWB and A990
* The Roadrunner — Fred Cutler - Ramchargers Deluxe Sedan with Destroked Hemi, no an A990 car
* Big Money Dodge - Jim Thornton - Ramchargers Big MOney Dodge was a '64
* Jerry Maycock - McKay-Swift Dodge Did Maycock drive this? The Mckay-Swift car was Marshall Bell's car..."Bell Boys"
I had to shorten this up...was way over the character limit. Start here. You also had a few cars listed 2-3 times in your list with the same owner???

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Old 01-04-2023, 04:07 AM   #34
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Hi Steve - please see the following..

65 A990 Race Hemis - Car, Driver, Team

* Mrs Bee’s Hemi - Jim Thornton Never saw where Thornton drove this? I know Bill Stiles did - I understood this was an ex- RC car?

* Giddy up a go go - Big Ed Seems to be a jumble on Holwick's car and Ed Knezevich? Both were from Ohio and already listed here - to clarify..Mr Ed was Ed Knisovich...Might Quick was Nick Knisovich?

*Smith & Sons, Cartollton, Ohio - Any idea on the driver?

* Jerry Maycock - McKay-Swift Dodge Did Maycock drive this? The Mckay-Swift car was Marshall Bell's car..."Bell Boys" -

- my bad....This was an A864 race car and driver - who was Marshall Bell?

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Actually...two queries! Which Outlaw became Koffels car....Sonny’s or Charles Doyle?
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Hi Steve - please see the following..

65 A990 Race Hemis - Car, Driver, Team

* Mrs Bee’s Hemi - Jim Thornton Never saw where Thornton drove this? I know Bill Stiles did - I understood this was an ex- RC car? Mrs B's Hemi was a Plymouth. They had a '64 Hardtop, and a '65 A990

* Giddy up a go go - Big Ed Seems to be a jumble on Holwick's car and Ed Knezevich? Both were from Ohio and already listed here - to clarify..Mr Ed was Ed Knisovich...Might Quick was Nick Knisovich? Correct. Ed had a Dodge, Nick a Plymouth...both A990 cars

*Smith & Sons, Cartollton, Ohio - Any idea on the driver? Larry 'Doc' Dixon...same guy that drove for the Rod Shop later

* Jerry Maycock - McKay-Swift Dodge Did Maycock drive this? The Mckay-Swift car was Marshall Bell's car..."Bell Boys" -

- my bad....This was an A864 race car and driver - who was Marshall Bell? I know Maycock was tied in with Jim Fiske's '64 High & Mighty Dodge (not to be confused with the Ramchargers), but was unaware of him driving an A864 car either. The High & Mighty car came from Hartley Motors in Fredonia, NY

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Actually...two queries! Which Outlaw became Koffels car....Sonny’s or Charles Doyle? Wayland's car was called the "Wayland Hemi" from Ohio...I have not been able to find any more info on that car. A few people remember it, but not much more
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A bit more info -

Apparently A864 High & Mighty was sold by Hartley Motors to McKay Swift.

Maycock and Fiskes involvement ended here.

Unsure if the car name changed.


McKay Swift also bought an A990 - Bell Boys, Marshall Bell.
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I am not even a Mopar guy but find this fascinating. The Jim Clark listed in 64 and 65 , is that a Vancouver area guy who ran alky dragsters in the 90's?

I was at his place once and recall seeing Mopar stuff and pictures.

Also didn't Grumpy Jenkins also run a Hemi in 64?
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I am not even a Mopar guy but find this fascinating. The Jim Clark listed in 64 and 65 , is that a Vancouver area guy who ran alky dragsters in the 90's?

I was at his place once and recall seeing Mopar stuff and pictures.

Also didn't Grumpy Jenkins also run a Hemi in 64?
From what I recall, is that Grumpy drove a 65 Plymouth called the Black Arrow, that was owned by Doc Burgess.

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