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H.A.A.C. Racing · 07-11-2008, 08:37 AM

It seems that they lifted the fines on oil downs for the pros, they still take points away, but no more money. How is it that they wont fine a team that gets their money from Castrol and Budweiser, but they will still fine the sportsman racer that has to take time off from work and use their savings money to go racing?

Duane Dagostino · 07-11-2008, 08:53 AM

Good point,but to me the "enhancement" of a bigger purse to the pro's ,that are corporately funded is a bigger smack in the face of all sportsman racers.That 1.3 million the NHRA just "found" could have upped payouts considerably at our level so you may not have to runner-up to break even...now is the time for the Sportsman Council to make some noise

CBS · 07-11-2008, 10:15 AM

I'll bring it up.....

Duane Dagostino · 07-11-2008, 11:06 AM

Thanx Rock,keep this example in mind when you bring this up...let's say you attend 5 divisionals and 3 nationals to claim points...you go 5 rounds at each...you will finish most likely in top 3 in your div. and top 10 in the nation...and your $ payout will just about cover entries and race gas..the whole round money/contingency system needs work...thanx again

63corvette · 07-11-2008, 03:28 PM

If you did finish top 10 in National points you get the gold card for the following year.
Now that is worth $ BUCKS $ if you race much the following year. Much more than the round money!!!!
My 2 Cents

Jason Oldfield · 07-11-2008, 04:25 PM

The Gold Card certainly is a nice perk, but if you think about it, it's really not worth ALL that much money. If you were to go to 10 National & 12 Division / Opens, that only equates to about $4,500 in entry fees. There aren't that many sportsman racers in the country that go to that many races.

In contrast, the fuel cost to go to 10 National & 12 Division / Opens would be far greater (at least double). So, if you win a Gold Card you're caught between a rock and a hard place. You want to use it because you have it, but you have to spend more money in gas to get to the race and back than it would have cost you to pay for car and driver entry.

Now, don't get me wrong. I certainly won't turn down the Gold Card if and when it is ever offered to me. But IMHO it is silly to chase points simply to get yourself a Gold Card.

I would MUCH rather see the payout increased for sportsman racers across the board. I know I can't be the only one that's lost in the Semis and felt like I was kicked in the nuts (and that's not unique to NHRA either, as IHRA is the same way).

Jason Kenny · 07-11-2008, 04:45 PM

I think the Gold Card is only for the National Champ and the 7 Division Champs.

The Top 10 Nationally get a silver card, which is good for nationals only.

bobby · 07-11-2008, 05:04 PM

How about a fuel credit card for the top 10, LOL. Would be nice though.

Jason Oldfield · 07-14-2008, 09:41 AM

Now THAT would be worth chasing points over!

CBS · 07-14-2008, 10:18 AM

I already suggested that....a fuel card is the ticket.....

the purse additions likely came from Coke...so unless somebody puts up the money for the sportsman purse increase...its not likely to happen....

cbs

07-11-2008, 08:37 AM	#1
H.A.A.C. Racing Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 320 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Latest Post on N.H.R.A.Com It seems that they lifted the fines on oil downs for the pros, they still take points away, but no more money. How is it that they wont fine a team that gets their money from Castrol and Budweiser, but they will still fine the sportsman racer that has to take time off from work and use their savings money to go racing?

07-11-2008, 08:53 AM	#2
Duane Dagostino Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Fl. Posts: 74 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Latest Post on N.H.R.A.Com Good point,but to me the "enhancement" of a bigger purse to the pro's ,that are corporately funded is a bigger smack in the face of all sportsman racers.That 1.3 million the NHRA just "found" could have upped payouts considerably at our level so you may not have to runner-up to break even...now is the time for the Sportsman Council to make some noise

07-11-2008, 10:15 AM	#3
CBS VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Commerce, Mi Posts: 1,387 Likes: 1 Liked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Latest Post on N.H.R.A.Com I'll bring it up.....

07-11-2008, 11:06 AM	#4
Duane Dagostino Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Fl. Posts: 74 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Latest Post on N.H.R.A.Com Thanx Rock,keep this example in mind when you bring this up...let's say you attend 5 divisionals and 3 nationals to claim points...you go 5 rounds at each...you will finish most likely in top 3 in your div. and top 10 in the nation...and your $ payout will just about cover entries and race gas..the whole round money/contingency system needs work...thanx again

07-11-2008, 03:28 PM	#5
63corvette Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Canyon, Tx Posts: 552 Likes: 128 Liked 358 Times in 103 Posts	Re: Latest Post on N.H.R.A.Com If you did finish top 10 in National points you get the gold card for the following year. Now that is worth $ BUCKS $ if you race much the following year. Much more than the round money!!!! My 2 Cents

07-11-2008, 04:25 PM	#6
Jason Oldfield Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 619 Likes: 1 Liked 10 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Latest Post on N.H.R.A.Com The Gold Card certainly is a nice perk, but if you think about it, it's really not worth ALL that much money. If you were to go to 10 National & 12 Division / Opens, that only equates to about $4,500 in entry fees. There aren't that many sportsman racers in the country that go to that many races. In contrast, the fuel cost to go to 10 National & 12 Division / Opens would be far greater (at least double). So, if you win a Gold Card you're caught between a rock and a hard place. You want to use it because you have it, but you have to spend more money in gas to get to the race and back than it would have cost you to pay for car and driver entry. Now, don't get me wrong. I certainly won't turn down the Gold Card if and when it is ever offered to me. But IMHO it is silly to chase points simply to get yourself a Gold Card. I would MUCH rather see the payout increased for sportsman racers across the board. I know I can't be the only one that's lost in the Semis and felt like I was kicked in the nuts (and that's not unique to NHRA either, as IHRA is the same way). __________________ Jason Oldfield S/G & S/St 1838

07-11-2008, 04:45 PM	#7
Jason Kenny Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Kutztown, PA Posts: 108 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Latest Post on N.H.R.A.Com I think the Gold Card is only for the National Champ and the 7 Division Champs. The Top 10 Nationally get a silver card, which is good for nationals only.

07-11-2008, 05:04 PM	#8
bobby Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: League City, Texas Posts: 243 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Latest Post on N.H.R.A.Com How about a fuel credit card for the top 10, LOL. Would be nice though.

07-14-2008, 09:41 AM	#9
Jason Oldfield Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 619 Likes: 1 Liked 10 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Latest Post on N.H.R.A.Com Now THAT would be worth chasing points over! __________________ Jason Oldfield S/G & S/St 1838

07-14-2008, 10:18 AM	#10
CBS VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Commerce, Mi Posts: 1,387 Likes: 1 Liked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Latest Post on N.H.R.A.Com I already suggested that....a fuel card is the ticket..... the purse additions likely came from Coke...so unless somebody puts up the money for the sportsman purse increase...its not likely to happen.... cbs