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Old 02-06-2020, 09:02 PM   #381
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Default Re: Best Pontiac Powered Stockers

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Nobody ever said that you couldn't bracket race a Stocker!
Build a "Stocker type" motor, put it in your bracket car and experiment to your heart's content.
Yeah, that's a great idea.

I could at least get a ball park figure of how much a 2-barrel would slow the car down, vs the Q-jet.

I had a '71 2-barrel 455, out of a wagon. But I sold it. I've got a friend with a shop & yard full of Pontiacs, I'll see if he has any 2-barrels that look rebuildable.
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Old 02-07-2020, 07:37 AM   #382
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Found a little more info.

Lloyd Cox won the S/SA class at Indy, in '61. I assume it was the same car that his wife Carol drove the next year, to S/SA wins at Pomona & Indy.

In '62, Lloyd won SS/SA at the Winter Nats. Hayden Proffitt also won the SS/S class, as well as the already mentioned A/FX class. And Jess Tyree won the S/S class. Don Bennett won A/SA.

I'll remind ya'll once again, at that time, all these classes were considered "Top Stock", NOT Super Stock.

At Indy, Dick Jesse was RU to Lloyd Cox, in A/FX. In S/S, Arlen Vanke won & Bob Harrop was RU. Ralph Hardt won A/SA.

At the '63 Winter Nats, Bill Shrewsberry won A/FX. Think I posted a pic but didn't know the name. Lloyd Cox won B/SA, which I assume was in the Junior Stock class.

At Indy, Jim Wangers won B/FX, in a Royal Pontiac Swiss cheese Cat. Bill Abraham won A/SA. All these cars had either 389 or 421 Pontiac power.

'63 was the year Mopar jumped into drag racing big time. And many of the Pontiacs were not allowed to run in some of the lower classes, because not enuff of the SD cars had been sold. So, Mopar began to dominate many classes. Most all here are very familiar with the 413's, & the 426 Wedge & Hemi cars. In my humble & biased opinion, some of those Mopars were some of the ugliest quick cars ever on a drag strip. But, to Mopar fans, I'm sure they did & still do look good.

In '64, Don Gay won A/S at the Winters & at Indy. Mopars & 427 Fords won everything else, above A/S. Don't know about the lower classes in Junior Stock. Haven't found a source for that info yet.
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Old 02-07-2020, 11:12 AM   #383
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And here's a little more. These are the class winners at the '71 Indy race.

The guy posting said he had to guess at some of the cars. Anyhow, it shows that Truman Fields won D/S, in his '68 Bird, & Arnie Toftland
won I/SA in a '71 Lemans.

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In '65, Leroy Stutzman picked right where Don Gay had left off in '64, winning the A/S class.

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Just ran across this. Can't verify.

The caption under the pic says that Mary Ann Foss was the 1st female to hold a nat record. It was for top speed. D/SA is on her '58 Pontiac, in the pic. Also painted on her car is that she was a class winner at the 1964 Indy race.
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Old 02-07-2020, 12:36 PM   #385
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Here are the NHRA Stock records, as of April '65.

Several Pontiacs on the list. Jess Tyree held the A/S record. Ronnie Broadhead held the the C/S record, in a 389 Cat. Pontiacs also picked up the D/SA & E/SA records.

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Old 02-07-2020, 02:28 PM   #386
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The car in the 1st 2 pics was driven by Ronnie Broadhead. He was Stock Champ, broke the record 3 times, & won class at Indy, all in the same year.

Some of the other cars were record holders & class winners.
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At the Winter Nats, Brad & Randi Lyn both survived Stock E-1.

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Here's a list of Stock class winners at the '62 Indy race. 6 are Pontiac powered.

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Found a few more pics.

The first 2 are nat record holders. The next is a stick wagon.

Then there are 2 B/S GTO's with lady drivers. Don't know if it was for the "Powder Puff" race, or not. Back in the old days, I never ran across many stick cars with lady drivers. Not that they can't. It's just that they didn't, at the tracks we raced. But hey, there are lady truck drivers who shift gears for
a living, driving 18-wheelers.

The '56, with the wild paint job, I posted because the pic was taken at Green Valley. It was a famous track in the D/FW area. It's more than 200 miles from us. But we raced there 3 times. Twice in '77 & once in '78. They held the div 4 bracket finals there in '77 & '78. Have probably posted it earlier in the thread, but our 1st race there, in '77 is the race from which TJ got a little ink in the Nov issue of Hot Rod mag. She'd drove a '68 E/SA Bird in '75. Then all our local tracks switched to brackets, therefore we did too.
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At the '60 Nats in Detroit, Jim Wangers won his class & Frank Barnett won A/SA. I think Jim won overall "Mr. Stock Elimunator".

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At the '61 Winter Nats, Allen Hart won D/S, & Bob Battelle won C/SA.

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At the '67 Spring Nats, Pontiac won A/SA & E/SA.

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