1967 ss/ea

[Paul Ceasrine]

Cars that qualified for SS/E or SS/EA in 1967.

PLYMOUTH
67' GTX 440/375 HP (#3604 lbs.)
65' Belvedere 426/365 HP Street-Wedge (#3516 lbs.)
64' Fury (convertible) 426/365 HP Street-Wedge (#3482 lbs.)
64' Belvedere 383/330 HP (#3330 lbs.)
63' Belvedere 383/330 HP (#3267 lbs.)
62' Sport Fury 383/343 HP (dual-quad) (#3272 lbs.)

DODGE
67' R/T 440/375 HP (#3641 lbs.)
67' Charger 440/375 HP (#3728 lbs.)
65' Coronet 426/365 HP Street-Wedge (#3550 lbs.)
64' Polara (convertible) 426/365 HP Street-Wedge (#3471 lbs.)
64' Model #330 383/330 HP (#3313 lbs.)
63' Model #330 383/330 HP (#3261 lbs.)
62' Model #440 383/343 HP (dual-quad) (#3261 lbs.)

FORD
67' Mustang GT 390/320 HP (#3075 lbs.)
66' Mercury Cyclone GT 390/335 HP (#3313 lbs.)
66' Galaxie 500 XL 427/410 HP (#3887 lbs.)

[Paul Ceasrine]

Cars That Qualified for SS/E or SS/EA in 1967;

PONTIAC
67' GTO 400/360 HP (#3424 lbs.)
67' Firebrid 400/325 HP (non-Ram Air) (#3190 lbs.)
66' GTO 389/360 HP (Tri-Power) (#3444 lbs.)
65' GTO 389/360 HP (Tri-Power) (#3467 lbs.)
64' GTO 389/348 HP (Tri-Power) (#3306 lbs.)
63' Catalina 421/370 HP (#3682 lbs.)

OLDSMOBILE
67' 4-4-2 400/360 HP (#3451 lbs.)
66' 4-4-2 400/360 HP (Tri-Power) (#3452 lbs.)
65' 4-4-2 400/345 HP (#3395 lbs.)

BUICK
67' Gran Sport 400/340 HP (#3451 lbs.)
66' Gran Sport 401/332 HP (#3520 lbs.)
65' Gran Sport 401/325 HP (#3393 lbs.)

[Paul Ceasrine]

Cars That Qualified For SS/E or SS/EA in 1967;

CHEVROLET
67' Z-28 Camaro 302/290 HP (#2955 lbs.)
67' Camaro 350/295 HP (#2991 lbs.)
67' Camaro 396/325 HP (manual) (#3161 lbs.)
67' Camaro 396/325 HP (automatic) (#3217 lbs.)
67' Biscayne/Bel Air 427/385 HP (#3730 lbs.)
67' Chevelle SS 396 396/350 HP (#3337 lbs.)
66' Biscayne/Bel Air 427/390 HP (#3720 lbs.)
66' Chevelle SS 396 396/360 HP (convertible) (#3468 lbs.)

[Paul Ceasrine]

Jimmy,

Dick Arons set the SS/EA E.T. record in August 1967.
12.13 @ 118.11

Dick also made it to the 1967 Wolrd Finals at Tulsa, Oklahoma.
He was Super/Stock Eliminator Runner-up.
Lost to Ed Miller's 65 SS/A Hemi Plymouth.
Dick cornered the traction problem at Tulsa, with the 396/325 HP automatic
67' Camaro.

Gene Takash with a 67' R/T 440/375 HP won the SS/EA class at
the 67' Indy Nationals.

pc

[Paul Ceasrine]

Jimmy,

In 1967,
Dick Arons car was a 1967 Camaro coupe, and painted maroon.
An L-35 396/325 HP automatic.
Ran in SS/EA.
1( Won the Super/Stock Magazine Nationals at Cecil County in June 1967.
2) Set SS/EA recored with a 12.13.
3) Super/Stock Eliminator Runner-Up at the 1967 NHRA World Finals
at Tulsa, Oklahoma.

He also had a 396/325 HP Camaro convertible.

pc

[Hemi Moose]

PC interesting info on the 67 SS/EA class and the various cars. I'll have to dig around for some more old photo's of these cars, and it seems that most of the 383 & 440 powered Dodge & Plymouth's were in this class and the 426 Hemi powered B-body cars were in SS/B & SS/D classes from what I've seen.

[Hemi Moose]

Hey PC, I'm going to use some of those PM's that you sent me on this subject,
I hope you don't mind...

PC:
In early 1967, Sox & Martin ran a 67' GTX 440 in SS/E.

That car won the SS/E class at the 67' NHRA Springnationals. It had run a best of 11.95 in beating the 67' Z-28's.

They also had the 67' Hemi GTX car (non Ram Air).

In April they got the 67' R/O Hemi Belvedere from Gate City Motors in North Carolina. That gave them (3) B-Body cars.

Of course they lettered the R/O Belvedere with GTX markings, which confused everyone.

HM:
Good info there, but I thought that they only ran two cars in 1967, the S&M 1967 440 GTX and the S&M 1967 Hemi GTX with a RO Hemi scoop added on, I didn't know they ran a third car. So are all of these S&M cars accounted for, or is there still one missing? There are a few big collectors out there, but I'm sure you know who they are.

PC:
I thought they only had (2) also,

The 67' 440 GTX was delivered in November 66.

The 67' GTX Hemi (w/fake scoops) was delivered in December 1966.

Both cars were at the 67' Winternationals (January 67' ) in Pomona.

The 67 R/O Belvedere (w/GTX lettering) was purchased (yes purchased!!) by Buddy Martin from Gate City Motors. I believe it was March or April.

If you look closely at the 68' NHRA Springnationals, Ronnie Sox was driving the 67' GTX Hemi (w/fake scoops), not the R/O. The GTX had bucket seats, the R/O a bench seat.

HM:
Good stuff, damn you have a very sharp eye, you should post some of this info / stats in the 67 SS/EA thread, it's very interesting.

PC:
I have a keen eye for the Mopars. Of course I have to be careful what I post, because many of the Sox & Martin guys proclaim to know everything.

Here's one, everyone thinks that the Carroll Fink 67' SS/DA that won the 70' Super/Stock Magazine Nationals was the ex-Sox & Martin R/O.

But Carroll Fink stated the he just painted the car in the Sox & Martin scheme, to fool everyone.

He bought his car from Hamilton Motors in Detroit. He also put on GTX badging. I just found that out.

HM:
PC that's some more interesting info you have there, and I remember seeing that old photo of Carroll Fink's 67 Hemi RO Belvedere aka the GTX, I think I have that shot some where's, I'll try to dig it up later.

PC:
I am as confused as everyone else... I just read the article, where Carroll Fink was quoted on his car. He said he got a deal on the Hamilton Motors car, something he would not have gotten from Sox & Martin.

Many guys with the R/O just switched out the front grille, popped on the Belvedere/GTX badge, and put on the GTX chrome flip-top gas cap. They did make the car look a little sharper.

You know Sox & Martin had to have Plymouth send them cars (out the back door) to help keep them solvent. They dumped many cars out there. Not all were their true drag-race cars.

HM:
I can't remember my comment or maybe I didn't reply back. I guess I had no comment because I was still stunned, so take your pick because I don't recall what the hell I said?

PC:
I have to check my magazine files. After Sox & Martin won the 68' Springnationals with the 67' Hemi GTX (SS/D).

I believe they focused on the;
68' SS/B Hemi Barracuda (and back-up car)
68' SS/C Hemi Road Runner
68' SS/D Hemi GTX
68' SS/F GTX 440

Chrysler-Plymouth was fickle on staying with the current year cars, primarily with the factory-backed teams. They were not keen on seeing older (last year model) cars winning. That's why so many of their cars were sold.

HM:
I hope everyone here enjoyed this little discussion, but would like to here from some of the brand x crowd out there about some old Chevy & Ford stories & photo's from back in the day!
.

[Tim Takash]

Originally Posted by Paul Ceasrine

Jimmy,

Dick Arons set the SS/EA E.T. record in August 1967.
12.13 @ 118.11

Dick also made it to the 1967 Wolrd Finals at Tulsa, Oklahoma.
He was Super/Stock Eliminator Runner-up.
Lost to Ed Miller's 65 SS/A Hemi Plymouth.
Dick cornered the traction problem at Tulsa, with the 396/325 HP automatic
67' Camaro.

Gene Takash with a 67' R/T 440/375 HP won the SS/EA class at
the 67' Indy Nationals.

pc

This is the car that I an Recreating for my Father ( Gene Takash )
Look Up in the Threads!

[Rat Patrol]

S&M ran three cars in 67.

1 - RO23 - Buddy bought it in May of 1967 from longtime sponsor Gate City Motor Company in Greensboro, North Carolina..

My only data on this car is it was raced at the Super Stock Nationals & Dave Strickler raced it at 67 Nats in SS/B.

Easily identified by shovel scoop - NO Hurst decal in rear sideglass.

2- ‘Hemi Belvedere’ - a modded 383 Belvedere fitted with a street Hemi

This car

- ran with a flat hood at 67 Winters in SS/C ,
- won SS/B and SS Eliminator at Spring Nats( with scoop) , and
- ran in SS/B af the 67 Nats (with scoop), AND
- the 68 Winters in SS/D - the car raced off against the Platt CJ Mustang...in SS/D still with scoop...because Chrysler declared it as a GTX, NOT an RO23.

It has a HURST decal in the rear sideglass - this is the easy way to id this car - This car did the bulk of SS/B, C and D work in 67/68...depending on the hood!

3 - a 440 ‘GTX’ - This car never ran a shovel scoop, and ran in SS/E in 67, SS/F in 68. It has no shovel scoop...and no HURST decal.

Thx to Steve Sasko for setting me straight.

[DeuceCoupe]

Originally Posted by Rat Patrol

S&M ran three cars in 67.

RO23 - Buddy bought it in May of 1967 from longtime sponsor Gate City Motor Company in Greensboro, North Carolina. Ronnie was quite successful in this car, driving it to victory at the 1967 Bristol Springnationals. This was the only factory RO ’67 Hemi car the team had that year; they continued to run it into 1968 in SS/D. It us identifiable by the Cursiv style (Running writing) script ‘Lil Boss’ on the front qtr.


Lil Boss (Runnjng writing) - RO23 LW Belvedere II - SS/B
LIL BOSS (Block lettering) - Belvedere II with Hemi - SS/D, plain hood
LIL BOSS (Block lettering) - Belvedere II , 440, SS/EA, GTX hood

NONE of these cars were actual GTX’s. The SS/D car and the 440 car have Belvedere interiors and top sill chrome treatment.

The RO23s were not GTX’s ....ever.

I still have this flagged in my data.
The RO23 cars ran in the 7.00-7.69 class, with cold air scoop.

The GTX cars ran in the 7.70-8.69 class, with NO cold air.
I think that's right?

So, sure you could rebadge a Belvedere as a GTX, but seems NHRA would say "no" to the cold air hood, as the GTX didnt come that way.

Or, did they sneak an RO23, rebadged as a GTX, into 68=SS/D=7.70 class, WITH the cold air hood? That would have been illegal I think?

Then again some of these combos (all makes) were legal "for a while" and then officially illegal, so I'm not sure.