Not for Nuthin' But Close!

[Dave Noll]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

A million years ago, I played with "welding spiders" in a FWD car. That won't happen again.

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Times 2 !

Would be interested to hear about these as I was toying with doing this on the Escort. Is it the torque steer or something else. I did find an lsd for it though.

[Dave Gantz]

Aren't welded spider gears illegal? I wouldn't want to be on either end of that law suit. (The one that could ensue when an accident occurs because a weld or gear broke.)

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Dave Gantz

Aren't welded spider gears illegal?

Yup. Under General Regulations 2:11 Rear End,Welded spider gear rear ends prohibited in all classes.

[Tom Meyer]

They do it a lot in the fwd Dirt cars, never ever hear of anybody breaking one. Seen a bunch blow the the trans apart from the spiders spinning and cutting the pin in half. For setup you run less air from left to right for stager to go around corners and with the gears harder than the shaft it eats it up. For some of the rwd classes they have to run a mini spool with just the pin making it solid. If you work on the PS a little it does not take away any hp. 99 % of the all the dirt cars and nascar run PS. Its a old wise tail now days. How many time do you hear that somebody lost there PS and fell back out of contention, back in the day when nobody had it took a man to drive 500 miles. Tom

[Billy Nees]

Tom, I know that dirt tracks can get really "sticky" but, as I'm sure that you know, it's nothing like a "glued concrete" starting line. And there's not much need for P/S on a drag strip. Taking off the P/S pump and laying it aside was worth .08.

[Stan Weiss]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Tom, I know that dirt tracks can get really "sticky" but, as I'm sure that you know, it's nothing like a "glued concrete" starting line. And there's not much need for P/S on a drag strip. Taking off the P/S pump and laying it aside was worth .08.

I see they have made the P/S more efficient. In '64 it was worth .1 on my brothers '62 Olds.

Stan

[Tom Meyer]

Gm systems run a lot of pressure. When running a gm pump with a Mustang II rack you need to drop the pressure or you will blow the seals out of it. Borgesen makes a simple kit for this. Not to be confused with the flow reducers with a smaller hole in them. Gm also has a cold climate PS Fluid. I did not think it would slow the cars that much but your testing shows otherwise. Saturns have electric PS and have plate over pump hole, bolts rite on. I am told the VUE cams made more torque but they do not have the drive for PS. I have one if you want to try it. Tom

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Dave Noll

Would be interested to hear about these as I was toying with doing this on the Escort. Is it the torque steer or something else. I did find an lsd for it though.

First of all and probably the most important, it will be VERY difficult to steer the car and I mean just driving it around the pits. It will slow you down and not just a little bit. If you break your welded spiders, you had better hope that you do it on the line otherwise you WILL be going for a "ride".

[BigBlockBill]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

First of all and probably the most important, it will be VERY difficult to steer the car and I mean just driving it around the pits. It will slow you down and not just a little bit. If you break your welded spiders, you had better hope that you do it on the line otherwise you WILL be going for a "ride".

It's more of a when than a if you break a welded spider.