Automatic Horsepower Factoring System

[Dick Butler]

Lynn, Maybe with time Nhra will accept TOP/STK and TOP/SS and a couple wt breaks as Heads up at points meets as well as Opens Then people who like that will have a choice . Dick

[Evan Smith]

Jim,

I also think a 2-3 tenth reduction of the indexes is a good answer. I think that is probably the direction that it will go, however, I would like more input, before trying to push something through. But those who I have spoken to so far seem to agree. On the other end of that, I'm sure the very small percentage of racers who are hovering on the current indexes can do some easy things that to find the same 2-3 tenths.

Evan

[vic guilmino]

ok put index to -.3
and go back to 1.00 under triggers

[Jim Cimarolli]

I was around back in the '80's when NHRA added 2 tenths to all the indexes. One reason given by NHRA was because there were always about 4 or 5 racers at the bottom of the ladder that were struggling to be able to run the number and it would also lower the hurdle for new racers to get involved.
After about a year it was the same guys that were struggling to make it under again.

[bsa633]

Originally Posted by Jim Cimarolli

I was around back in the '80's when NHRA added 2 tenths to all the indexes. One reason given by NHRA was because there were always about 4 or 5 racers at the bottom of the ladder that were struggling to be able to run the number and it would also lower the hurdle for new racers to get involved.
After about a year it was the same guys that were struggling to make it under again.

actually i think it was in 93 they raised them...but i am with Jim B. give those .2 back + another one for starters.. .5 would work to even better in the long run! and have a group of individuals(not racers) to manually clear up the the ones that will be to far ahead,,

[Dick Butler]

If the sandbagging and fear of running fast is what people are complaining about how will lowering the index help?Would the trigger be lowered too? Does that do anything? except make a number less under. Does it affect the HP problem some cars show?

[SS Engine Guy]

This isn't a numbers game in a casino. Lower what ever you want. The fast will still be as far under and the bogus hp factors will still be bogus.

[bsa633]

Originally Posted by Dick Butler

If the sandbagging and fear of running fast is what people are complaining about how will lowering the index help?Would the trigger be lowered too? Does that do anything? except make a number less under. Does it affect the HP problem some cars show?

Ofcourse the trigger has to remain for it to have any effect....but i guess a higher trigger would have the same effect...but com'on...should we maybe ask for adding .5 to the index? then you could probably run the index with with your daily driver or a rental...(maybe we just could fly in to those big money "Bracket Races)use the same car back and forward to the motel ..and also ..you would not need to have any gear with you...with todays costs..sounds good? Seriously if someone have problems running -.50 today..you A: aren't doing anything right with your combo(aka.working as hard as you should) B: have a combo thats wrongly factored. We should not use the Index to settle those arguments!
I think it's looks really stupid from the outside these days when everone is trying to hit -1.14 in qualifying..and many have to lift heavily,have a couple of hundred pounds extra with them or other strange tune ups!

p.s Its seems like many people think you should be guaranteed to run under the index nowdays...why is that?

[Lynn A McCarty]

Originally Posted by Dick Butler

Lynn, Maybe with time Nhra will accept TOP/STK and TOP/SS and a couple wt breaks as Heads up at points meets as well as Opens Then people who like that will have a choice . Dick

I was thinking that practice is boring. Bring what you brung and hope you brung enough. Heads up it in practice. If you dont want to, then use it as a practice run. Either way the fans will like it....oh..wait a minute...all the fans are at the NMCA heads up race!

50 lbs extra for an aftermarket block, 100lbs at least for aftermarket or replacement heads, 100lbs extra for bogus combos.