new hazmat rules - Page 3

ItsyBitsySpider · 02-22-2010, 12:09 PM

I have a question that's been bothering me.
What if someone else dumps in your pit? What is to stop someone that doesn't like you from "framing" you for EPA infractions at a race?
I'm sure you'll all agree that 99% of the people we race with are wonderful, but then there's the 1% of psychos that will do anything to hurt someone they don't like or consider a threat.

JR fuel · 02-23-2010, 02:54 PM

It would be nice if one of the NHRA guy's would put a post on this forum and explain our option's on this issue. I shure would like to know more about it.

Kent Hanley · 02-23-2010, 06:37 PM

I emailed the company on the bottom of the NHRA video asking for a little clarification on the new procedures. Here is the email I received from them:

----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Prince
To: Kent Hanley
Sent: Sun Feb 21 22:28:36 2010
Subject: RE: disposal of oil and oil filters

Kent,

We can provide all drums secondary containment and such at the track. In the past the track had provided these items free of charge. Unfortunately Florida DEP regs will not allow them to operate in the manner many racers have become accustomed. We have a booth across from the fuel island to assist you or provide any necessities you may need. If you have not entered the track, we will be at the gate as well in the morning beginning about 7 am.

Thank you,
Richard Prince

I then sent Richard a follow up email asking about pricing and procedure using a typical example if one of us were to change our oil and filter at the track with a couple oil soaked paper towels and a used brakeleen can. I have yet to hear from him. When I do I will post his response.

I think if NHRA would of told this up front this thread probably wouldn’t exist.

Kent

Mark Schmidt · 02-23-2010, 07:15 PM

If Forrest Lucas ever wanted to be a hero...here is his chance.

JR fuel · 02-24-2010, 02:59 PM

Ok why can't we take our old oil and filters home with us?

Freddie · 02-25-2010, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JR fuel

Ok why can't we take our old oil and filters home with us?

At Bradenton you could... but I am hearing at Gainsville, you had to pay for the disposal of it there???? I did not go t Gainsville....

Kinda odd that the NHRA owned track makes you pay more fees?????

MOVEMAN · 02-25-2010, 01:30 PM

Dear Sir/Madam,
I understand your firm will be the provider for hazardous materials disposal at the upcoming NHRA race at Gainesville, FL. Since your website is unavailable, I need to know what we, as racers, will need to be concerned with and the costs to us because this is some sort of new way of the sanctioning body "passing the buck" along to the racers!

First of all, I always used the designated containers that the track provided to dispose of our waste oil, however as the operator of a mechanical shop, I sometimes wondered if the barrels at most tracks (not all) were a safe and approved method of containing such waste! What do we need to have at our pit area (if anything) in order to bring our waste oil (if we even have any during the race) to you for disposal or to transport back to our own shop where we have approved storage for such waste? ie: I change my oil (7-8 qts.) and filter at track ! If I bring the oil and filter to you, what is the procedure and cost?

Any further specific advise will be appreciated!

Rich Price

STILL WAITING!!

Rick Bailey · 02-25-2010, 01:55 PM

Lets just sit back and see what goes on @ Atl. and then the Gators.

Mark Schmidt · 03-01-2010, 05:41 PM

I've never been checked by the DOT or Green Police. How much do they look at and do they have to have reasonable cause? I got pulled over several years ago in Airzona, but they checked my trailer for illegals...go figure.

Chuck Westcott · 03-01-2010, 07:54 PM

It's just a big scare to remind us that we need to comply with all the local hazmat laws, G-ville they were all over the track checking and looking for infractions, they found none.
On that Saturday I stopped by the Hazmat shop and asked how much oil they collected and they told me -0- so far. If you need to service your car just take it with you .
The other big issue is Brake Clean with Chlorine. I haven't seen Chlorinated Brake Clean in Years myself. I carry a 5 gal. jug and just dump it at Auto Zone or some place like that.
Mark, How's the leg doing ? You still skipping work ? Tell Deb I said Hi. It was sunny and 70 down here in central Fl. today, I'm working on a tan.

02-22-2010, 12:09 PM	#21
ItsyBitsySpider Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Florida & NY Posts: 109 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: new hazmat rules I have a question that's been bothering me. What if someone else dumps in your pit? What is to stop someone that doesn't like you from "framing" you for EPA infractions at a race? I'm sure you'll all agree that 99% of the people we race with are wonderful, but then there's the 1% of psychos that will do anything to hurt someone they don't like or consider a threat. __________________ Shelley Wiley BF/S, S/G, S/C

02-23-2010, 02:54 PM	#22
JR fuel Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 27 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: new hazmat rules It would be nice if one of the NHRA guy's would put a post on this forum and explain our option's on this issue. I shure would like to know more about it.

02-23-2010, 06:37 PM	#23
Kent Hanley Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 127 Likes: 69 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: new hazmat rules I emailed the company on the bottom of the NHRA video asking for a little clarification on the new procedures. Here is the email I received from them: ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Prince To: Kent Hanley Sent: Sun Feb 21 22:28:36 2010 Subject: RE: disposal of oil and oil filters Kent, We can provide all drums secondary containment and such at the track. In the past the track had provided these items free of charge. Unfortunately Florida DEP regs will not allow them to operate in the manner many racers have become accustomed. We have a booth across from the fuel island to assist you or provide any necessities you may need. If you have not entered the track, we will be at the gate as well in the morning beginning about 7 am. Thank you, Richard Prince I then sent Richard a follow up email asking about pricing and procedure using a typical example if one of us were to change our oil and filter at the track with a couple oil soaked paper towels and a used brakeleen can. I have yet to hear from him. When I do I will post his response. I think if NHRA would of told this up front this thread probably wouldn’t exist. Kent

02-23-2010, 07:15 PM	#24
Mark Schmidt Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 273 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: new hazmat rules If Forrest Lucas ever wanted to be a hero...here is his chance. __________________ MDS Motorsports

02-24-2010, 02:59 PM	#25
JR fuel Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 27 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: new hazmat rules Ok why can't we take our old oil and filters home with us?

02-25-2010, 01:30 PM	#27
MOVEMAN Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 106 Likes: 0 Liked 11 Times in 2 Posts	Re: new hazmat rules Dear Sir/Madam, I understand your firm will be the provider for hazardous materials disposal at the upcoming NHRA race at Gainesville, FL. Since your website is unavailable, I need to know what we, as racers, will need to be concerned with and the costs to us because this is some sort of new way of the sanctioning body "passing the buck" along to the racers! First of all, I always used the designated containers that the track provided to dispose of our waste oil, however as the operator of a mechanical shop, I sometimes wondered if the barrels at most tracks (not all) were a safe and approved method of containing such waste! What do we need to have at our pit area (if anything) in order to bring our waste oil (if we even have any during the race) to you for disposal or to transport back to our own shop where we have approved storage for such waste? ie: I change my oil (7-8 qts.) and filter at track ! If I bring the oil and filter to you, what is the procedure and cost? Any further specific advise will be appreciated! Rich Price STILL WAITING!!

02-25-2010, 01:55 PM	#28
Rick Bailey Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 502 Likes: 5 Liked 10 Times in 7 Posts	Re: new hazmat rules Lets just sit back and see what goes on @ Atl. and then the Gators. __________________ Rick Bailey 3439 SC

03-01-2010, 05:41 PM	#29
Mark Schmidt Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 273 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: new hazmat rules I've never been checked by the DOT or Green Police. How much do they look at and do they have to have reasonable cause? I got pulled over several years ago in Airzona, but they checked my trailer for illegals...go figure. __________________ MDS Motorsports

03-01-2010, 07:54 PM	#30
Chuck Westcott Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Brownsburg,Indiana Posts: 326 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: new hazmat rules It's just a big scare to remind us that we need to comply with all the local hazmat laws, G-ville they were all over the track checking and looking for infractions, they found none. On that Saturday I stopped by the Hazmat shop and asked how much oil they collected and they told me -0- so far. If you need to service your car just take it with you . The other big issue is Brake Clean with Chlorine. I haven't seen Chlorinated Brake Clean in Years myself. I carry a 5 gal. jug and just dump it at Auto Zone or some place like that. Mark, How's the leg doing ? You still skipping work ? Tell Deb I said Hi. It was sunny and 70 down here in central Fl. today, I'm working on a tan. __________________ Chuck Westcott- S/C -S/G 225