Original hemi dart information

Stewart Way · 05-20-2010, 04:13 PM

Paul
I could be wrong, but I think then 69 darts had the engine size on the hood bulge inserts, the 68 just has a 4 stack arrangement trimmed in red on the inserts. The 68 383 and 440 had fender badges.

Paul Ceasrine · 05-20-2010, 04:36 PM

Stewart,
You are correct. I forgot. The 68' Darts had the 4 inserts inside the
thin horizontal power bulge.
The 68' GSS 440 cars still had the 383 emblems on the fenders.
Nice to know, Dick Landy won the SS/EA class at the 1968
Winternationals, defeating Gas Ronda in the Russ Davis Ford factory-backed 68' Cobra-Jet Mustang. 12.01 @118.73.
Paul...Thank you for the correction..

Paul Ceasrine · 05-22-2010, 12:57 PM

Roger,
I think the CC article was not correct.
And you are right, it is confusing as hell trying to figure out all
the cars.
Dick Landy won the 69' Winternationals Street/Eliminator in
B/MP with a 68' Charger. It had the full-grille (68' style) and a
small hood scoop. There were no R/T insignia emblems on that car. Later on, he changed the hood scoop to a low-profile one, just like the 65 A-990 Super/Stock cars. Hope that helps.
Paul

Paul Ceasrine · 06-30-2010, 09:41 AM

Mark,
Saw a couple of photos of the Hemi Cuda Test Mule.
Perplexing question. That car wasn't set-up like the factory cars.
The Test Mule had under-coating all over the place.
The under-carriage wasn't even sand-blasted prior to testing.
Had to be a good 70 lbs. of extra sealant on the car.
There must have been a lot a paper calculations on just what that car would turn.
PC

mopar68 · 07-07-2010, 01:34 AM

If memory serves me correctly, I believe the prototype BO23 'Cuda started out as an 383 Barracuda Formula S model therefore the added 'baggage.'

M68

mopar68 · 07-07-2010, 01:41 AM

I just found this photo (online) tonight.

Any history?

M68

Paul Ceasrine · 07-07-2010, 09:12 AM

M68,
Never saw that Cuda before...I wonder if it is an original BO23?
Correct on the Test Mule.
A 1967 383 4-speed car.
I'm not sure where I heard it, but I think it was an executives 1967
company vehicle. So it did have some miles on it, along with the standard items.
Radio, heater, body sealer and under-coating, rear seats, etc.
Most of the calculations were done on paper, to determine what would be required (removed off the car/lighten) to run 10.90's..
If you see the magazine with the car, you can see that the Test Mule was
an automatic, with the proper Hurst shift box/console.
The heater controls were still present, as well as an abundance of
under-coating on the under-carriage.
PC

05-20-2010, 04:13 PM	#1
Stewart Way Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Atlanta Posts: 476 Likes: 20 Liked 70 Times in 22 Posts	Re: Original hemi dart information Paul I could be wrong, but I think then 69 darts had the engine size on the hood bulge inserts, the 68 just has a 4 stack arrangement trimmed in red on the inserts. The 68 383 and 440 had fender badges. __________________ Stewart Way 2424 SS

05-20-2010, 04:36 PM	#2
Paul Ceasrine VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,546 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 10 Posts	Re: Original hemi dart information Stewart, You are correct. I forgot. The 68' Darts had the 4 inserts inside the thin horizontal power bulge. The 68' GSS 440 cars still had the 383 emblems on the fenders. Nice to know, Dick Landy won the SS/EA class at the 1968 Winternationals, defeating Gas Ronda in the Russ Davis Ford factory-backed 68' Cobra-Jet Mustang. 12.01 @118.73. Paul...Thank you for the correction..

05-22-2010, 12:57 PM	#3
Paul Ceasrine VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,546 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 10 Posts	Re: Original hemi dart information Roger, I think the CC article was not correct. And you are right, it is confusing as hell trying to figure out all the cars. Dick Landy won the 69' Winternationals Street/Eliminator in B/MP with a 68' Charger. It had the full-grille (68' style) and a small hood scoop. There were no R/T insignia emblems on that car. Later on, he changed the hood scoop to a low-profile one, just like the 65 A-990 Super/Stock cars. Hope that helps. Paul Last edited by Paul Ceasrine; 05-22-2010 at 01:15 PM. Reason: addition

06-30-2010, 09:41 AM	#4
Paul Ceasrine VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,546 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 10 Posts	Re: Original hemi dart information Mark, Saw a couple of photos of the Hemi Cuda Test Mule. Perplexing question. That car wasn't set-up like the factory cars. The Test Mule had under-coating all over the place. The under-carriage wasn't even sand-blasted prior to testing. Had to be a good 70 lbs. of extra sealant on the car. There must have been a lot a paper calculations on just what that car would turn. PC

07-07-2010, 01:34 AM	#5
mopar68 VIP Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,660 Likes: 8 Liked 44 Times in 27 Posts	Re: Original hemi dart information If memory serves me correctly, I believe the prototype BO23 'Cuda started out as an 383 Barracuda Formula S model therefore the added 'baggage.' M68 Last edited by mopar68; 07-07-2010 at 01:42 AM.

07-07-2010, 01:41 AM	#6
mopar68 VIP Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,660 Likes: 8 Liked 44 Times in 27 Posts	Re: Original hemi dart information I just found this photo (online) tonight. Any history? M68

07-07-2010, 09:12 AM	#7
Paul Ceasrine VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,546 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 10 Posts	Re: Original hemi dart information M68, Never saw that Cuda before...I wonder if it is an original BO23? Correct on the Test Mule. A 1967 383 4-speed car. I'm not sure where I heard it, but I think it was an executives 1967 company vehicle. So it did have some miles on it, along with the standard items. Radio, heater, body sealer and under-coating, rear seats, etc. Most of the calculations were done on paper, to determine what would be required (removed off the car/lighten) to run 10.90's.. If you see the magazine with the car, you can see that the Test Mule was an automatic, with the proper Hurst shift box/console. The heater controls were still present, as well as an abundance of under-coating on the under-carriage. PC