carb spacers

Cisco Kid · 08-03-2010, 10:27 AM

i have a simple question...i have to remove my throttle stop for a race,and my question is this...which 2" spacer to use,an open design or one with the 4 hole...i have a 4150 holley with an eldelbrock intake...i dont want to hurt the performance,since i have tested without using the stop,i would not mind gaining performance,but i dont want to lose any!!
Thanks

dbochan · 08-03-2010, 10:52 AM

For a smallblock with 4150, use and HVH Supersucker.

http://www.highvelocityheads.com/supersucker.html

Cisco Kid · 08-03-2010, 11:44 AM

so plastic is the way to go?? even for a bb?? thanks!!

Bill Baer · 08-03-2010, 11:47 AM

I would think a four hole one would be a closer configuration to the four hole throttle stop your removing, a one hole would add pleneum volume, affect carb booster signal and possibly jetting.

If you have the opportunity to test and rejet it a one hole or super sucker [U]could[U] add a little performance.

Cisco Kid · 08-03-2010, 12:01 PM

now i been looking and i found these ones Phenolic SWIRL-TORQUE Spacers from trans-dapt and they are half the cost...i am planning on just using it for a race or 2 so i would like the least expensive but also keep the performance!! thanks again you guys are awesome!!

Chris Williams · 08-03-2010, 02:07 PM

As Bill said, if this is a "swap in/swap out" kind of thing (run with the stop one weekend, not another) then I'd try to get a shape that exactly matches the stop. But if you're into fiddling/jetting/testing, then the sky's the limit...

Cisco Kid · 08-03-2010, 10:18 PM

thanks guys!! i am just doing it for the unleashed race at national trails..i have started to remove all my electronics,and add weather pak connectors to everything...this is turning out to be a pain!!

Michael Pliska · 08-06-2010, 02:24 PM

Are you sure they won't let you leave the stop in place with it disconnected? For running non-Electronics at NHRA National Opens and Summit ET series, I have an email from our division tech director confirming that it is okay to leave my Dedenbear on the car as long as the electrical wires are disconnected from it. That said, I have a Super-sucker on order to try and get my car closer to the 9.00 minimum for the ET finals (and I normally race 1/8-mile so I've got minimal 1/4-mile data anyway).

Cisco Kid · 08-08-2010, 10:14 AM

michael,what i have done so far was make a electronics panel,that has my delay box and trans brake timer on it and installed weather pack connectors on all the boxes so i can easily remove them,the panel is also just mounted with dzus fastners,at or points meet at trails i talked with tech,and he said that i must remove all the electronics and even the stop off the intake...is it possible you can scan the letter you recieved and email it to me?? cause what i can do is leave it alone and just take the letter and my new spacer which cost 169 bucks and if i dont have to use it i will send it back...the rules are so vague that they tend to not explain the details,and i plan on testing next week to figure out my shift point to get down to 10.0...and i hate to change everything then have to go from square 1 on time trails...but thanks for you help...my email is seszko3@aol.com
thanks again

08-03-2010, 10:27 AM	#1
Cisco Kid Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Shadyside Ohio Posts: 51 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	carb spacers i have a simple question...i have to remove my throttle stop for a race,and my question is this...which 2" spacer to use,an open design or one with the 4 hole...i have a 4150 holley with an eldelbrock intake...i dont want to hurt the performance,since i have tested without using the stop,i would not mind gaining performance,but i dont want to lose any!! Thanks

08-03-2010, 10:52 AM	#2
dbochan Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: East Hampton, CT Posts: 15 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: carb spacers For a smallblock with 4150, use and HVH Supersucker. http://www.highvelocityheads.com/supersucker.html Attached Thumbnails

08-03-2010, 11:44 AM	#3
Cisco Kid Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Shadyside Ohio Posts: 51 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: carb spacers so plastic is the way to go?? even for a bb?? thanks!! Last edited by Cisco Kid; 08-03-2010 at 11:45 AM. Reason: need more

08-03-2010, 11:47 AM	#4
Bill Baer Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Nothern IL Posts: 596 Likes: 1 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: carb spacers I would think a four hole one would be a closer configuration to the four hole throttle stop your removing, a one hole would add pleneum volume, affect carb booster signal and possibly jetting. If you have the opportunity to test and rejet it a one hole or super sucker [U]could[U] add a little performance. __________________ Bill Baer 3391 SC, 339B SC, QR Last edited by Bill Baer; 08-03-2010 at 11:50 AM.

08-03-2010, 12:01 PM	#5
Cisco Kid Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Shadyside Ohio Posts: 51 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: carb spacers now i been looking and i found these ones Phenolic SWIRL-TORQUE Spacers from trans-dapt and they are half the cost...i am planning on just using it for a race or 2 so i would like the least expensive but also keep the performance!! thanks again you guys are awesome!!

08-03-2010, 02:07 PM	#6
Chris Williams Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Woodinville, WA Posts: 401 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: carb spacers As Bill said, if this is a "swap in/swap out" kind of thing (run with the stop one weekend, not another) then I'd try to get a shape that exactly matches the stop. But if you're into fiddling/jetting/testing, then the sky's the limit... __________________ Chris Williams 6304 SC, TD, ET

08-03-2010, 10:18 PM	#7
Cisco Kid Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Shadyside Ohio Posts: 51 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: carb spacers thanks guys!! i am just doing it for the unleashed race at national trails..i have started to remove all my electronics,and add weather pak connectors to everything...this is turning out to be a pain!!

08-06-2010, 02:24 PM	#8
Michael Pliska Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Happy Valley, OR Posts: 260 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: carb spacers Are you sure they won't let you leave the stop in place with it disconnected? For running non-Electronics at NHRA National Opens and Summit ET series, I have an email from our division tech director confirming that it is okay to leave my Dedenbear on the car as long as the electrical wires are disconnected from it. That said, I have a Super-sucker on order to try and get my car closer to the 9.00 minimum for the ET finals (and I normally race 1/8-mile so I've got minimal 1/4-mile data anyway). __________________ Michael Pliska 643 S/G

08-08-2010, 10:14 AM	#9
Cisco Kid Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Shadyside Ohio Posts: 51 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: carb spacers michael,what i have done so far was make a electronics panel,that has my delay box and trans brake timer on it and installed weather pack connectors on all the boxes so i can easily remove them,the panel is also just mounted with dzus fastners,at or points meet at trails i talked with tech,and he said that i must remove all the electronics and even the stop off the intake...is it possible you can scan the letter you recieved and email it to me?? cause what i can do is leave it alone and just take the letter and my new spacer which cost 169 bucks and if i dont have to use it i will send it back...the rules are so vague that they tend to not explain the details,and i plan on testing next week to figure out my shift point to get down to 10.0...and i hate to change everything then have to go from square 1 on time trails...but thanks for you help...my email is seszko3@aol.com thanks again