Original hemi dart information

[mopar68]

Originally Posted by RJDUDEK

?..What ever became of the orig. class of " 83 ",68 SK Dart , It was re-painted black ,I remember ,and was street-raced during late 69- early 70's. ,by (Ron / John Lyle) out of Brookyln ,AKA, "Mutt Bros." ,in and around Conduit Boulevard, JFK, and some streets in Jersey..also @ Wendsday(s) ,Raceway Park,@ big money "street" nights..

I was a t-shirted, 20 yo wide eyed kid..,

You describe ME back then to a "t." Except my t-shirt daze were in the mid-late-1970s.

at a diner in JFK one SAT.night , I recall Carmen Rotunda was there with one of Brooklyn "Heavys" car,(I think a ex-S&M Cuda).I never saw that much ca$h handled ever..even at my bank.. Lyle won. Re-match ended when 5-0 showed up w/ pistols drawn.

Funny part looking back.now...how 140 + mph tin cans handled a 70's NY street w/o much drama and how a large , quite unsavory and disparite race and age group assembled ..yet,seemed to engage and bet big ,and I mean BIG $$, w/o nary an issue.
Not so today..ever.

I've witnessed 'street-type' events like that back in the early-mid-1980s in my neck of the woods, though certainly with not as much cash changing hands and with much slower, truly streetable cars doing the battling. The common denominator that kept such a "diverse", "unsavory" and (potentially) volatile crowd in check were the cars.

M68

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"Attached are some photos taken back a fellow Mopar Club member in the Jacksonville area. He took these in 1969 at a local Dodge dealer. These were from the Dodge Clinic(s) that Dick Landy would put on in conjunction with Sox & Martin at the Plymouth dealerships."




Those were the daze...

M68

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Is it real or a recreation? Either way, really cool 60s-style paint and lettering.

M68

[Dennis P Chapman]

Originally Posted by mopar68

You describe ME back then to a "t." Except my t-shirt daze were in the mid-late-1970s.



I've witnessed 'street-type' events like that back in the early-mid-1980s in my neck of the woods, though certainly with not as much cash changing hands and with much slower, truly streetable cars doing the battling. The common denominator that kept such a "diverse", "unsavory" and (potentially) volatile crowd in check were the cars.

M68

Yep the under pass and ave P.

[mopar68]

Originally Posted by Dennis P Chapman

Yep the under pass and ave P.

One night circa 1986 me and a buddy of mine, who grew up in Linden, NJ, took a ride to Avenue P in Newark. He always used to rave about all the hot street racing action that took place there in the 1970s. So, my curiosity finally got the best of me and I offered to drive him to show me just exactly where it was.

When we arrived in that industrial area and finally located Avenue P, we cruised the entire length of the 'strip' to where it ended leading into the city. My first thought (to myself) and comment to him was: "I can't believe you guys used to race here" because of the narrowness of the road (no way was there enough room for parked cars to be on the side of the road, as is all too usual for "street-type" events, with two cars going at it at the same time) and a less than smooth racing surface with its small potholes, cracks, etc.

Now, South Avenue (actually the service road off the Goethels bridge) was much nicer, wider, and smoother 'strip' and I saw many a race there in the mid-1980s.

M68

P.S. Dennis, you by chance related to Walter Chapman?

[Dennis P Chapman]

Originally Posted by mopar68

One night circa 1986 me and a buddy of mine, who grew up in Linden, NJ, took a ride to Avenue P in Newark. He always used to rave about all the hot street racing action that took place there in the 1970s. So, my curiosity finally got the best of me and I offered to drive him to show me just exactly where it was.

When we arrived in that industrial area and finally located Avenue P, we cruised the entire length of the 'strip' to where it ended leading into the city. My first thought (to myself) and comment to him was: "I can't believe you guys used to race here" because of the narrowness of the road (no way was there enough room for parked cars to be on the side of the road, as is all too usual for "street-type" events, with two cars going at it at the same time) and a less than smooth racing surface with its small potholes, cracks, etc.

Now, South Avenue (actually the service road off the Goethels bridge) was much nicer, wider, and smoother 'strip' and I saw many a race there in the mid-1980s.

M68

P.S. Dennis, you by chance related to Walter Chapman?

Not that I know from what town was he from I can ask my mother she may know.

[mopar68]

Originally Posted by Dennis P Chapman

Not that I know from what town was he from I can ask my mother she may know.

I don't know...somewhere in "Joisey." It's no big deal, Walter was just a Chevy bracket racer I once knew from about 20 years ago...just wondering if you were related.

M68

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[MEMORIES]

Originally Posted by Hemi Moose

Speaking of Mr. Norm's cars sold at Grand Spaulding Dodge, I heard that there were also some big money street races around the Chicago area and suburbs, anyone care chime in about any of those street races back then.

My friend Doug Potter, was good friends with Billy Stepp. He said he went to several big money street races with Billy and his gang. He said Mayor Richard Daley kept them out of trouble.

Wayne.