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Old 02-07-2012, 12:23 AM   #1
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Rogue,

Believe me,,,,,,,,,I'm no expert on these cars,,,,,,but have seen my fair share of them.

You would think, a smart racer would have wanted a Base Model 220,
2-Door Sedan,,,,,,,,

But again, according the Rambler Literature,,,,,,,,they state that the
343/280 HP 'Z' Code engine was not available in the Model 220.

Of course,,,,,,,,,,,,anything can have been bought...back then.

On the exterior markings,

The Model 220 and Model 440, had emblems on the front fender.
Also, the Rogue emblem was on the front fender.

The 290 V-8 engine call out was placed on the back fender.

The Model 220 and Model 440 had 'American' on the front fender.

Both the Model 440 and Rogue, had a brushed panel insert for the
back trunk lid.

The Model 440 and Rogue, had a trim molding section at the base of the 'C' pillar.

Drip-rail moldings were standard the Model 440 and Rogue.

Lower window trim moldings, Rogue only.

Full-length fender crown trim molding, Rogue only.

The lower exterior full-length band-molding was standard on the
Model 440 and the Rogue.

That molding was not available on the Base Model 220.

Rocker panel moldings were (optional), and were available on all models.

Bucket seats were available in the Rogue only.

Paul,

Any chance you can make you documentation available to the AMC community?

Some clarification:
"The 290 V-8 engine call out was placed on the back fender." All engines had call-outs on the rear-fenders.

"The Model 440 and Rogue, had a trim molding section at the base of the 'C' pillar." There were actually four different trim-moldings at the base of the 'C' pillar, all were different, and none were interchangeable, they each had different (mounting) holes... 220's had their own, 440's had different ones, Rogues (without vinyl) actually had 2 per side, and Rogues (with vinyl) had their own.

Everything else is accurate.

Trivia question: All X-code '67 American had a distinguishing feature, visible in the trunk, do you know what it was?

Go ahead and email me directly if you can make your documentation available... thanks for all of your help.
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Old 02-07-2012, 01:33 AM   #2
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Trivia question: All X-code '67 American had a distinguishing feature, visible in the trunk, do you know what it was?
67RogueX-code, maybe you care to tell us...in the mean time here's an old shot.


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Old 02-07-2012, 11:30 AM   #3
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67RogueX-code, maybe you care to tell us...in the mean time here's an old shot.

That car still exists, and is owned by a member of "theAMCforum.com". And other than the wheels/tires looks exactly the same today.

Trivia answer:
To help handle the additional torgue, ONLY X-code cars had the rear shock move to behind the rear axle. To support the upper shock-mounts, plates were added to the differential-hump, inside the trunk. Similar plates were used the following year on the Javelins & AMX's.

In this picture you can see one of those plates. Also note, this picture is of a 220 (disputing the list previously posted):

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Old 02-07-2012, 07:08 PM   #5
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1967 Rambler 440, 2-Door Sedan, 343 4-Speed

No full-length lower band molding,,,,,,,most likely removed.

1967 AHRA Formula-6 D/Stock National Record Holder
12.47 @ 113 MPH

That would be equivalent to 1967 NHRA B/S (Stock Class).
But, the AHRA did permit Camshaft up-grades, as well as Holley Carburetors on Stock Class Engines.



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Old 02-07-2012, 08:08 PM   #6
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1967 Rambler 440, 2-Door Sedan, 343 4-Speed

No full-length lower band molding,,,,,,,most likely removed.

1967 AHRA Formula-6 D/Stock National Record Holder
12.47 @ 113 MPH

That would be equivalent to 1967 NHRA B/S (Stock Class).
But, the AHRA did permit Camshaft up-grades, as well as Holley Carburetors on Stock Class Engines.


looks like the one pictured has the beltline moulding if you look close...
that's the only 2dr sedan i've ever seen it on though (but i'm still new to the amc stuff but learning fast )
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1967 Rambler Rogue

The 1967 Rambler American and Rogue featured a new front grille,
which featrured prominent horizontal chromium-plated staffs.

Just looking at the Rogue 'Hardtop', you can see the weak link in the body,,,,,,,,the 'C' pillar area appears small.

The higher torque in the 343/280 'Typhoon' engine, obviously caused
body twisting in the 'Hardtop'.



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That car still exists, and is owned by a member of "theAMCforum.com". And other than the wheels/tires looks exactly the same today.

Trivia answer:
To help handle the additional torgue, ONLY X-code cars had the rear shock move to behind the rear axle. To support the upper shock-mounts, plates were added to the differential-hump, inside the trunk. Similar plates were used the following year on the Javelins & AMX's.

In this picture you can see one of those plates. Also note, this picture is of a 220 (disputing the list previously posted):

Seems Rambler used these items just like the Dodge & Plymouth cars with 440 six pack and 426 Hemi motors, they used extra bracing and thick plates and torque boxes on their cars.
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Old 02-07-2012, 10:04 PM   #9
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1967

Rambler/AMC made their 'first real move into the street musclecar scene'.

Not to discount the little 290/225 HP 4-Barrel/4-Speed.

Those 1967 Model 440 2-Door Sedans, weighed a nice #2817 lbs.

They were tight cars.
With a weight factor of 12.52 Wt/Hp
1967 NHRA Class = F/S
1968 NHRA Class = J/S
1969 NHRA Class = K/S
1970 NHRA Class = L/S
1971 NHRA Class = L/S
1972 NHRA Class = SS/N or D/S (Pure Stock)
1973 NHRA Class = SS/N or J/S (Pure Stock)

Even back in 1968 or 1969, a well-prepped street Rambler American
with a 290 4-Speed, and 4.44 gears,,,,,,,,,,,

Could get into the 14.80 range.
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