Rambler All-American

[67RogueX-code]

In general, we are all looking for data that can be vetted and the source validated. So far, all we have found is conflicting information on the web... and that data that does not conflict, was obviously "cut & pasted" from someone elses web data. When enough people repeat the same bogus stats, some people are prone to take it as "gospel".

In the absence of actual Corporate documentation regarding the 1967 model-year production figures for the east Kenosha assembly-line, where the "small" cars (i.e.; Americans) were built, generally the AMC community believes:

1. The 58 (total) number is probably pretty close.
2. We have currently existing (and varifiable) 2-door examples of 220's, 440's, and Rogues that are X-code cars.
3. We do NOT know of any X-code 4-door cars (which includes station wagons, which only came in 4-door models).
4. We do NOT know of any convertible X-code cars.

...and that's about what we know...

But like everyone else, we love to hear the "my Dad told me that his Uncle had a Cousin, whose barber knew someone who thought he was absolutely pretty sure that he might have remembered..."

[Hemi Moose]

67RogueX-code, it sounds like you're disagreeing with the sources that Paul supplied everyone and posted earlier in this thread, you practicaly begged him to give it up and post it so the rest of the AMC community could see it...You asked him where he got all his information from exactly, and he told you, so are you disagreeing with his sources now...Also while were at it, why don't you tell us the name of this person who allegedly borrowed documents from Rambler or AMC, so whats the real story behind this, why would he do that and doctor information.

[67RogueX-code]

I think Paul, based on his post from 05:05AM this morning, is finding the same thing the rest of us have found. There are a lot of websites quoting production figures that either:

1) Can be proven to be inaccurate (as I've illustrated, by posting pictures of a varifiable 220 X-code car, yet the documentation indicates that none were built.
2) Totally contradict each other with how many were built (how do we determine which is correct, without ACTUAL production figures with dates, counts, and VIN-ranges?).
3) Or are blantant "cut-and-pastes" from other (unverifiable) websites.

Over on "theAMCforum", we have (probably) 100 guys that spent several decades either working on the assembly-line in Kenosha or at AMC dealerships throughout the 60's and 70's. There are at least 40 guys that between them (total) own several 100 1967 Americans... several of which are the original owners. There are a handfull of members that even have actual AMC blueprints and schematics from the engine plant. And, one of the members is generally acknowledged as the official AMC historian (Tom Benvie, who has posted here with regards to his research on SS/AMX's).

None of us have ever located the official AMC documentation regarding the 1967 (East Kenosha assembly-line) production figures...

But we're always hopeful that they will (someday) turn up.

[Paul Ceasrine]

I'm trying to download the newspaper article from 1969,,,,,,,

Not that the information in the Evening Star Newspaper is 100% correct.

It only stated that Scott Smith had a limited production 1967 Rambler
'Super American',,,,,,with a factory installed '343' 'Typhoon'.

Scott Smith (car owner and Parts Manager at Geis Motors) mentioned
that his 'Frost White' 440 Hardtop 4-Speed was only 1 of 20 or so
of these Model cars built with this engine.

He said, in 1967 the 343 4-Barrel 'special performance engine' was usually found in the Rebel, and some specialty Rogue's.

[67RogueX-code]

Thanks a lot Paul, we appreciate your efforts.