Pure Stocker Thread

[Dan Fahey]

Originally Posted by Harry 6674

Most stocker engines built to the blueprint minimums have a much higher compression ratio then stock. The race gas helps.

Yeah some higher compression is realized when Blueprinted.
But closer to the advertised Compression Ratio.

Deck Block to Minimum Rating, .030/.070 Overbore, .015 over Crank.
The Overbore helps unshroud the Valves and breaths little better.
But cannot see more than a 1/2 point increase in Compression.

Maybe wrong ..my 2 Cents !!

Still 93 Octane runs well in my LT1.
Which has 10.5 to 1 Compression and running 36 degrees Timing.

Figure that 100% gasoline would run a better ET than 10% Methanol Blend.
Because the Methanol reduces the BTU produced...

My 94 Caprice LT1 Wagon seems to have lost 1 mpg in cruising.
Tougher to get 24 mpg, getting more like 22 and 23 mpg fill ups.

Dan

[GarysZ24]

Originally Posted by Phillip marvetz

If you think I am anti IHRA you don't know me very well,lol. I wish every track around here was IHRA. Although I may give NHRA another try now that Div6 has a director that seems to give a damn about the racers, Frank Nelson is trying to save the sinking ship that Jonathon abandoned and I think he has the fortitude to do it.
Now what class would my 65 Hemi Coronet run in pure stock?.......

My guess would be the fastest, or second fastest one, because I bet that cars a hauler!
That car is one of the top three on my if-money-were-no-object-what-car-would-I-race, list...the '68 Dodge Dart Hemi, and the '64 Plymouth Savoy, being the other two!

[Dan Fahey]

Originally Posted by GarysZ24

My guess would be the fastest, or second fastest one, because I bet that cars a hauler!
That car is one of the top three on my if-money-were-no-object-what-car-would-I-race, list...the '68 Dodge Dart Hemi, and the '64 Plymouth Savoy, being the other two!

Be interesting if IHRA and independent SS/S series invited the Pure Stockers from http://www.purestockdrags.com organization to come to IHRA events.

Some of those cars could be ready to buy and race and in showcar form.
All would fit right in and many are full up restorations.

PureStockDrag rules are almost identical to IHRA Pure Stock.
Only minor changes are needed if at all.
Many already have gone through tear down to validate their records.
These guys are tough, here are the rules.
http://www.purestockdrags.com/index....d=48&Itemid=53

Many of these cars would own IHRA Pure Stock Records.
Plus they would add a huge mystique what the originals actually ran.

IHRA (hint--hint) there is a whole Pure Stock market ready for you to invite...

Dan

[cicero819]

Originally Posted by Dan Fahey

Be interesting if IHRA and independent SS/S series invited the Pure Stockers from http://www.purestockdrags.com organization to come to IHRA events.

Some of those cars could be ready to buy and race and in showcar form.
All would fit right in and many are full up restorations.

PureStockDrag rules are almost identical to IHRA Pure Stock.
Only minor changes are needed if at all.
Many already have gone through tear down to validate their records.
These guys are tough, here are the rules.
http://www.purestockdrags.com/index....d=48&Itemid=53

Many of these cars would own IHRA Pure Stock Records.
Plus they would add a huge mystique what the originals actually ran.

IHRA (hint--hint) there is a whole Pure Stock market ready for you to invite...

Dan

Dan, unfortunately most of the car that run crazy times at Pure Stock on the independent circuit are just bogus car with over cubic limits with everything to make i make it go fast, such as lighten seats, removal of radio(cutting the front part only, removing everything of metal and replacing it with clone pieces of plastic to make it look like the original, a couple of them have crafted a 906 into a 727 just for the weight. No we need some way to limit the creativity of some.lol CR

[ALMACK]

Originally Posted by cicero819

Dan, unfortunately most of the car that run crazy times at Pure Stock on the independent circuit are just bogus car with over cubic limits with everything to make i make it go fast, such as lighten seats, removal of radio(cutting the front part only, removing everything of metal and replacing it with clone pieces of plastic to make it look like the original, a couple of them have crafted a 906 into a 727 just for the weight. No we need some way to limit the creativity of some.lol CR

^^ That sounds more like F.A.S.T. racing:

http://fastraces.org/


The " pure stock drags " races I have read about are the most legit pure stock class I have ever seen:

[chris ok]

yeah, 2 different classes. Cheaters areeverywhere, can't help that tho, to a point.

Should get my Buick done for pure stock. what would a 1970 Buick GS w a 455, small valve motor be classified in, and at what weight.It is a tank.

[cicero819]

Originally Posted by chris ok

yeah, 2 different classes. Cheaters areeverywhere, can't help that tho, to a point.

Should get my Buick done for pure stock. what would a 1970 Buick GS w a 455, small valve motor be classified in, and at what weight.It is a tank.

Chris, they're not cheaters just people taking it to the limit. It does not say that the radio has to be.working. Like Smokey Yunick said many times, if you're not pushing the enveloppe, you will never move forward. This is the reason for having strict rules.CR

[Dan Fahey]

Originally Posted by cicero819

Chris, they're not cheaters just people taking it to the limit. It does not say that the radio has to be.working. Like Smokey Yunick said many times, if you're not pushing the enveloppe, you will never move forward. This is the reason for having strict rules.CR

Smokey also said: IF it is Not in the RULE BOOK it is LEGAL !

Those Pure Stockers have really strict rules and go through an full NHRA like Teardown to claim their ET records.

AND not for Money ....they do it for Bragging Rights !!

As for the 1970 Buick...should fall in B or C Pure Stock.

Contact Mike Baker for you combination.
AND
Check with Dick Miller on suspension upgrades to make it hook.

D

[Dan Fahey]

BTW..who is running the Pure Stock Web Page now??

[Dave Gantz]

If I remember right, NHRA started requiring race gas because pump gas wouldn't check.

Pure Stock would only happen at NHRA events if there was something in it for NHRA.