If you like guns

Eddies66 · 07-12-2012, 09:42 AM

Constitution trumps treaties without a majority vote. Any record of such a vote in the Congressional record?? Anyone? If they did they wouldn't make it back to the cars after the vote.

Dick Butler · 07-12-2012, 12:44 PM

Eddie, It was commented on TV report that Treaty trumps Constitution in this case. I do not know for sure personally

Eddies66 · 07-12-2012, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Dick Butler

Eddie, It was commented on TV report that Treaty trumps Constitution in this case. I do not know for sure personally

Dick, I think we all need to keep our ear close to the ground on this one. Reid vs Covert may offer some background with regards to treaties and the Constitution.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reid_v._Covert

treessavoy · 07-12-2012, 01:57 PM

Unless the treaty allows a search of every house in America, no guns will be confiscated ! It will take a firefight to get mine!

JimR

Jim Wahl · 07-12-2012, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Eddies66

Constitution trumps treaties without a majority vote. Any record of such a vote in the Congressional record?? Anyone? If they did they wouldn't make it back to the cars after the vote.

Let's hope you are correct on this! Jim

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David Lee · 07-13-2012, 12:00 AM

No treaty can be signed by the president unless the Senate approves it by a 2/3 vote. So we all can keep our firearms.

Dick Butler · 07-13-2012, 07:28 AM

Hiliary is to be the signing person. Eddie is right about the Reid case stating Constitution over treaty comment. Thanks.

Bill Brennan · 07-13-2012, 07:08 PM

From what I understand after a meeting today.
The treaty trumps the Constitution.

This two days after an executive order to control the internet in the case of a national emergency.

To me these two are related.

David Lee · 07-13-2012, 07:20 PM

Bill, how ever told you this has given you some false informatiion. The supreme court in 1954 in the case "Reid v. Covert" that the Bill of Rights and constitution cannot be abrogated by agreements with foreign powers.

Jim Wahl · 07-15-2012, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by David Lee

Bill, how ever told you this has given you some false informatiion. The supreme court in 1954 in the case "Reid v. Covert" that the Bill of Rights and constitution cannot be abrogated by agreements with foreign powers.

I wonder that if the Bill of Rights and the Constitution can not be abrogated by agreements with foreign powers, why is this administration even discussing or considering this? From what I have read, the administration is all ready to sign off on it! Can he do it by Executive Order as he loves to do when he can't get things past Congress? Jim

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07-12-2012, 09:42 AM	#1
Eddies66 VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Rancho Mirage, CA Posts: 1,308 Likes: 300 Liked 881 Times in 452 Posts	Re: If you like guns Constitution trumps treaties without a majority vote. Any record of such a vote in the Congressional record?? Anyone? If they did they wouldn't make it back to the cars after the vote. Last edited by Eddies66; 07-12-2012 at 10:10 AM.

07-12-2012, 12:44 PM	#2
Dick Butler VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Richmond Indiana Posts: 1,196 Likes: 5 Liked 32 Times in 19 Posts	Re: If you like guns Eddie, It was commented on TV report that Treaty trumps Constitution in this case. I do not know for sure personally

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treessavoy VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Dunnellon,FL Posts: 1,103 Likes: 0 Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: If you like guns Unless the treaty allows a search of every house in America, no guns will be confiscated ! It will take a firefight to get mine! JimR __________________ Jim Rountree

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David Lee VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,168 Likes: 487 Liked 346 Times in 126 Posts	Re: If you like guns No treaty can be signed by the president unless the Senate approves it by a 2/3 vote. So we all can keep our firearms.

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Dick Butler VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Richmond Indiana Posts: 1,196 Likes: 5 Liked 32 Times in 19 Posts	Re: If you like guns Hiliary is to be the signing person. Eddie is right about the Reid case stating Constitution over treaty comment. Thanks.

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Bill Brennan Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 0 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: If you like guns From what I understand after a meeting today. The treaty trumps the Constitution. This two days after an executive order to control the internet in the case of a national emergency. To me these two are related. __________________ Bill Brennan 1062 STK

07-13-2012, 07:20 PM	#9
David Lee VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,168 Likes: 487 Liked 346 Times in 126 Posts	Re: If you like guns Bill, how ever told you this has given you some false informatiion. The supreme court in 1954 in the case "Reid v. Covert" that the Bill of Rights and constitution cannot be abrogated by agreements with foreign powers.