Bruton Smith's - Bristol Track Condition's

Myron Piatek · 10-02-2012, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Wright

Should hook in a car wash. Can't imagine how long the throttle stop would have to be on to slow a 800 HP 3200 lb car down to 10.00. Same weight as mine, runs about the same times with over 200 more HP.

Put an 8" ATI Treemaster converter in it and get back to us on that. LOL

The NHRA 10.0, 11.0 and 12.0 classes do not allow any "timed" throttle stops or other engine related settings. Only pre-set mechanical adjustments. Not sure if that includes trans shifters. Trans-brakes and 2-steps ok, but no delay boxes.

Rollins_2241 · 10-02-2012, 07:44 PM

Yes, important point - the 10.0 class is an "all out" launch with no timers, just like a Super Stocker (transbrake, high RPM, no throttle stop). You could say I run this class so I can fantasize about having a Super Stock budget for 10 seconds at a time, that would be pretty accurate.

This car runs 9.70 all out, so about like a SS/GA setup except for the skinny tires.

Thanks for the opportunity to plug FTI, who makes my ridiculously consistent converter, on the stop or off. It stalls to 6200, shifts at 7600, falls back to about 6400. It is a Glide but a 1.80 straight cut. Also I keep the gear ratio down to 3.90. I guess that's all those years of bracket racing on crappy tracks showing.

Yes, the throttle stop setup is rarely subject to tire spin and not relevant to the discussion; it comes off about 100' in low gear with no problem at any track.

Chad Rhodes · 10-03-2012, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Rollins_2241

Yes, important point - the 10.0 class is an "all out" launch with no timers, just like a Super Stocker (transbrake, high RPM, no throttle stop). You could say I run this class so I can fantasize about having a Super Stock budget for 10 seconds at a time, that would be pretty accurate.

This car runs 9.70 all out, so about like a SS/GA setup except for the skinny tires.

Thanks for the opportunity to plug FTI, who makes my ridiculously consistent converter, on the stop or off. It stalls to 6200, shifts at 7600, falls back to about 6400. It is a Glide but a 1.80 straight cut. Also I keep the gear ratio down to 3.90. I guess that's all those years of bracket racing on crappy tracks showing.

Yes, the throttle stop setup is rarely subject to tire spin and not relevant to the discussion; it comes off about 100' in low gear with no problem at any track.

Just a guess but with a 1.80 low, and a 3.90 gear, you're not hitting the starting line near as hard as most stock and ss cars

Rollins_2241 · 10-03-2012, 08:22 AM

No offense guys, but I could sit here and take apart all your setups too. You're missing the point - if you want to win, you have to build a car that will go down the track. Think military - adapt and overcome. Spend your time and money wisely instead of sitting here. This is the drag racing economy and weather conditions we have to live in - no facility wants to spend more than they have to on the track, and nobody wants to rain out races and force people to waste another $1,000 in diesel coming back later.

Bill Grubbs · 10-03-2012, 09:05 AM

John,
To quote Painter and GEICO,"Come on in the water is plenty deep!" - "It's so easy even a caveman can do it"

Bill

Ed Wright · 10-03-2012, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by bill grubbs

john,
to quote painter and geico,"come on in the water is plenty deep!" - "it's so easy even a caveman can do it"

bill

lol!

Carl Weisinger · 10-05-2012, 02:15 AM

Bristol ?

Pro's:
Great reception at the gate. Great pit spot. Nice Hampton Inn. Wonderful little restaurant in Bristol called the Brooklyn Grill. Mild temperatures. Great deli at the Food Country store on 394. Nice staff in the refreshment center selling decent burgers and bottled soft drinks. Pleasant people in tech, especially Lester. (Lester was also working fuel check
and he pushed the button to get my fuel sample so I didn't have to get my fat *** out of the car). Loved the way one could let their car coast onto the scales. Jim Collins actually smiled when I took a picture of the NHRA crew down at tech/credentials. Got to visit with
some old friends Tom & Mike Callis, Mike Heintz, JG Wilson, Jim Perry, Glen Treadwell, Rick & Dick Hord, Don Fillyaw, Charlie Warren, Bob Marshall, Mike Crutchfield, Jack & Red the track managers, Terry Earwood, John Livingston, Rick Mann, Roy Hill and quite a few more. Met some new folks too, . . . . Brian Martel, Dave Childs, Larry Stott, Troy Coughlin. There was a great guy named Mr. Sinclair at a little hardware store that came
up with a repair link for our winch pulley we needed. Car hooked every pass. All in all it was a great weekend. Got there without having a flat on the trailer or missing a Cracker Barrel for a meal. Won a round, (that's my limit). Stopped in Statesville, NC on the way home for dinner with some other members of the Killer Karolina Korvette Gang (Cracker Barrel of course). Got home without having a flat on the truck or trailer.

Con's:
Had to deal with a leaky electric fuel pump on the race car.

Best of luck to ya'll.

Carl

PS. Hope to see everyone at the LODRS event in Bristol, TN again next year.

Greg Hill · 10-03-2012, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Rollins_2241

No offense guys, but I could sit here and take apart all your setups too. You're missing the point - if you want to win, you have to build a car that will go down the track. Think military - adapt and overcome. Spend your time and money wisely instead of sitting here. This is the drag racing economy and weather conditions we have to live in - no facility wants to spend more than they have to on the track, and nobody wants to rain out races and force people to waste another $1,000 in diesel coming back later.

I think most of us could put together a bracket car that would go down most any track. The difference in stock and super stock is that first you have to run the index, you have rules on modifications, and you have heads up runs, especially if you run
A through G stock automatic. Try hooking a higher hp stocker on 9 inch tiers with a 2.75 low gear trans and a 5.13 rear gear and a 92 inch rollout tire. What you do and what we do is a lot different.

Rollins_2241 · 10-03-2012, 10:11 AM

Whatever...keep whining if it makes you feel better. I'm done trying to help.

Ed Wright · 10-05-2012, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Rollins_2241

Whatever...keep whining if it makes you feel better. I'm done trying to help.

That's funny right there. I don't care who ya are. LOL

10-02-2012, 07:44 PM	#2
Rollins_2241 Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 170 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Bruton Smith's - Bristol Track Condition's Yes, important point - the 10.0 class is an "all out" launch with no timers, just like a Super Stocker (transbrake, high RPM, no throttle stop). You could say I run this class so I can fantasize about having a Super Stock budget for 10 seconds at a time, that would be pretty accurate. This car runs 9.70 all out, so about like a SS/GA setup except for the skinny tires. Thanks for the opportunity to plug FTI, who makes my ridiculously consistent converter, on the stop or off. It stalls to 6200, shifts at 7600, falls back to about 6400. It is a Glide but a 1.80 straight cut. Also I keep the gear ratio down to 3.90. I guess that's all those years of bracket racing on crappy tracks showing. Yes, the throttle stop setup is rarely subject to tire spin and not relevant to the discussion; it comes off about 100' in low gear with no problem at any track. Last edited by Rollins_2241; 10-02-2012 at 07:47 PM. Reason: More detail

10-03-2012, 08:22 AM	#4
Rollins_2241 Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 170 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Bruton Smith's - Bristol Track Condition's No offense guys, but I could sit here and take apart all your setups too. You're missing the point - if you want to win, you have to build a car that will go down the track. Think military - adapt and overcome. Spend your time and money wisely instead of sitting here. This is the drag racing economy and weather conditions we have to live in - no facility wants to spend more than they have to on the track, and nobody wants to rain out races and force people to waste another $1,000 in diesel coming back later.

10-03-2012, 09:05 AM	#5
Bill Grubbs Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Magnolia, Texas Posts: 416 Likes: 3 Liked 564 Times in 66 Posts	Re: Bruton Smith's - Bristol Track Condition's John, To quote Painter and GEICO,"Come on in the water is plenty deep!" - "It's so easy even a caveman can do it" Bill

10-05-2012, 02:15 AM	#7
Carl Weisinger Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 98 Likes: 5 Liked 12 Times in 5 Posts	Re: Bruton Smith's - Bristol Track Condition's Bristol ? Pro's: Great reception at the gate. Great pit spot. Nice Hampton Inn. Wonderful little restaurant in Bristol called the Brooklyn Grill. Mild temperatures. Great deli at the Food Country store on 394. Nice staff in the refreshment center selling decent burgers and bottled soft drinks. Pleasant people in tech, especially Lester. (Lester was also working fuel check and he pushed the button to get my fuel sample so I didn't have to get my fat *** out of the car). Loved the way one could let their car coast onto the scales. Jim Collins actually smiled when I took a picture of the NHRA crew down at tech/credentials. Got to visit with some old friends Tom & Mike Callis, Mike Heintz, JG Wilson, Jim Perry, Glen Treadwell, Rick & Dick Hord, Don Fillyaw, Charlie Warren, Bob Marshall, Mike Crutchfield, Jack & Red the track managers, Terry Earwood, John Livingston, Rick Mann, Roy Hill and quite a few more. Met some new folks too, . . . . Brian Martel, Dave Childs, Larry Stott, Troy Coughlin. There was a great guy named Mr. Sinclair at a little hardware store that came up with a repair link for our winch pulley we needed. Car hooked every pass. All in all it was a great weekend. Got there without having a flat on the trailer or missing a Cracker Barrel for a meal. Won a round, (that's my limit). Stopped in Statesville, NC on the way home for dinner with some other members of the Killer Karolina Korvette Gang (Cracker Barrel of course). Got home without having a flat on the truck or trailer. Con's: Had to deal with a leaky electric fuel pump on the race car. Best of luck to ya'll. Carl PS. Hope to see everyone at the LODRS event in Bristol, TN again next year.

10-03-2012, 10:11 AM	#9
Rollins_2241 Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 170 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Bruton Smith's - Bristol Track Condition's Whatever...keep whining if it makes you feel better. I'm done trying to help.