Why No S/ST 10.90 @ Indy

cal · 09-01-2013, 12:31 PM

Hello All.

I was just wondering why NHRA shuns us S/ST racers at Indy.

Indy is the Holy Grail of NHRA Drag racing.
Every class is run at Indy but 3.

Why not S/ST, TD & T/S ?

Maybe alternate years or something.

Cal
S/ST HR 1177

Chris Williams · 09-01-2013, 04:15 PM

Some classes run at some races, other classes at other races. Depends on time, space, etc. Here's the schedule: http://www.nhra.com/2013sportsman_class_schedule.aspx

JimL · 09-02-2013, 08:27 PM

We are just fillers when they need to get the car count up.

Mackie Family Racing · 09-02-2013, 09:10 PM

if memory serves me right, the last two winners of SG, including this year's Phil Smida, were driving racecars usually driven in S/ST... maybe everyone will start selling their 175 mph Corvettes and buying Cavaliers and Mustangs!

cal · 09-02-2013, 10:04 PM

[QUOTE=Mackie Family Racing;397853]if memory serves me right, the last two winners of SG, including this year's Phil Smida, were driving racecars usually driven in S/ST... maybe everyone will start selling their 175 mph Corvettes and buying Cavaliers and Mustangs![

That would be cool. I know my car just won't hit a .400 tree with out a lot of work in the 4 link area. And it will only run like 152 MPH.

But who knows over the winter we may make some changes. to see if we can turn a .400 tree red

Cal S/ST 1177

Rollins_2241 · 09-03-2013, 09:10 AM

S/ST is not sponsored as a national championship class by Lucas Oil. It would cost another $50K or more to do so, and I'm sure NHRA would listen if a sponsor stepped up, but until then it is not a "national Lucas Oil" class.

In my view, the "Indy" of S/ST is the Jeg's Allstars at Chicago each year; it is always run there both for the Allstars and the national event, plus at one national event in each other division throughout the year. Usually in Division 2 it's Atlanta, sometimes Charlotte.

MadMax404 · 09-03-2013, 02:46 PM

Each division only gets 1 Super Street national a year thus D3 always has it at Chicago.

cal · 09-03-2013, 05:29 PM

Hello
Yea S/ST has been run for years at either Englishtown or Maple Grove in Div 1.

This year it was in Epping NH. just a little to far for me to drive, and the tolls. O MY

The All Stars race would be neat, but I may never Qualify for that one, plus that's a heck of a ride too.

Hopefully next year I can make it to most of the Div 1 races, and have some fun.

Cal
S/ST HR 1177

Denny Bloom · 09-04-2013, 01:13 AM

They definitely have the room for the cars. Quotas were not met.

Denny

Dewdlebug · 09-04-2013, 10:19 PM

I turned the same questioned over to my SRAC member. Granted it's a wish list. However I would not contend that it be competed as a LODRS world championship class. Simply, as mentioned before, a class that's added to the Indy schedule.This way there's no pressure to gain additional sponsor dollars. I would put a 30 - 40 cap on the field, the same quota as most S/ST Nats, and let the grade point system take care of who gets to race there. This would reward the "full time" S/ST racers with a better shot at making the field. It also motivates racers to participate in the divisional series to get the necessary grade points. Which I believe is the way the grade point system was designed to work.
I also had on my wish list to increase the number of S/ST Nats in each division to two. The fields are only 75%...why not? ...Maybe they actually like the sportsman car count being lower. Who knows.

09-01-2013, 12:31 PM	#1
cal Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: southern md Posts: 370 Likes: 39 Liked 30 Times in 17 Posts	Why No S/ST 10.90 @ Indy Hello All. I was just wondering why NHRA shuns us S/ST racers at Indy. Indy is the Holy Grail of NHRA Drag racing. Every class is run at Indy but 3. Why not S/ST, TD & T/S ? Maybe alternate years or something. Cal S/ST HR 1177

09-01-2013, 04:15 PM	#2
Chris Williams Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Woodinville, WA Posts: 401 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Why No S/ST 10.90 @ Indy Some classes run at some races, other classes at other races. Depends on time, space, etc. Here's the schedule: http://www.nhra.com/2013sportsman_class_schedule.aspx __________________ Chris Williams 6304 SC, TD, ET

09-02-2013, 08:27 PM	#3
JimL Junior Member Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 70 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Why No S/ST 10.90 @ Indy We are just fillers when they need to get the car count up.

09-02-2013, 09:10 PM	#4
Mackie Family Racing Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Milford, MI Posts: 179 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Why No S/ST 10.90 @ Indy if memory serves me right, the last two winners of SG, including this year's Phil Smida, were driving racecars usually driven in S/ST... maybe everyone will start selling their 175 mph Corvettes and buying Cavaliers and Mustangs!

09-02-2013, 10:04 PM	#5
cal Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: southern md Posts: 370 Likes: 39 Liked 30 Times in 17 Posts	Re: Why No S/ST 10.90 @ Indy [QUOTE=Mackie Family Racing;397853]if memory serves me right, the last two winners of SG, including this year's Phil Smida, were driving racecars usually driven in S/ST... maybe everyone will start selling their 175 mph Corvettes and buying Cavaliers and Mustangs![ That would be cool. I know my car just won't hit a .400 tree with out a lot of work in the 4 link area. And it will only run like 152 MPH. But who knows over the winter we may make some changes. to see if we can turn a .400 tree red Cal S/ST 1177

09-03-2013, 09:10 AM	#6
Rollins_2241 Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 170 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Why No S/ST 10.90 @ Indy S/ST is not sponsored as a national championship class by Lucas Oil. It would cost another $50K or more to do so, and I'm sure NHRA would listen if a sponsor stepped up, but until then it is not a "national Lucas Oil" class. In my view, the "Indy" of S/ST is the Jeg's Allstars at Chicago each year; it is always run there both for the Allstars and the national event, plus at one national event in each other division throughout the year. Usually in Division 2 it's Atlanta, sometimes Charlotte.

09-03-2013, 02:46 PM	#7
MadMax404 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 43 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Why No S/ST 10.90 @ Indy Each division only gets 1 Super Street national a year thus D3 always has it at Chicago. __________________ Mad Max NHRA/IHRA Stock 4040 Mickey Thompson Tires;Mothers Polish; Champion Brands Oils

09-03-2013, 05:29 PM	#8
cal Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: southern md Posts: 370 Likes: 39 Liked 30 Times in 17 Posts	Re: Why No S/ST 10.90 @ Indy Hello Yea S/ST has been run for years at either Englishtown or Maple Grove in Div 1. This year it was in Epping NH. just a little to far for me to drive, and the tolls. O MY The All Stars race would be neat, but I may never Qualify for that one, plus that's a heck of a ride too. Hopefully next year I can make it to most of the Div 1 races, and have some fun. Cal S/ST HR 1177

09-04-2013, 01:13 AM	#9
Denny Bloom Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Brownsville, PA Posts: 15 Likes: 3 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Why No S/ST 10.90 @ Indy They definitely have the room for the cars. Quotas were not met. Denny

09-04-2013, 10:19 PM	#10
Dewdlebug Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: League City, TX Posts: 120 Likes: 2 Liked 19 Times in 12 Posts	Re: Why No S/ST 10.90 @ Indy I turned the same questioned over to my SRAC member. Granted it's a wish list. However I would not contend that it be competed as a LODRS world championship class. Simply, as mentioned before, a class that's added to the Indy schedule.This way there's no pressure to gain additional sponsor dollars. I would put a 30 - 40 cap on the field, the same quota as most S/ST Nats, and let the grade point system take care of who gets to race there. This would reward the "full time" S/ST racers with a better shot at making the field. It also motivates racers to participate in the divisional series to get the necessary grade points. Which I believe is the way the grade point system was designed to work. I also had on my wish list to increase the number of S/ST Nats in each division to two. The fields are only 75%...why not? ...Maybe they actually like the sportsman car count being lower. Who knows.