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Old 03-02-2014, 09:07 AM   #61
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Default Re: '67 Camaro E/SA redo

It was/is pretty common to weld some straps on those perches....but I never saw a failure like that even without them.

You have a ton of work to fix that....pull rear cut off perches....weld on new ones...add strapping....check everything else for damage...

If it is legal a strap going over the top of the axle and down to the perch front and back should work.

The metal that those perches are made from is questionable in my mind...

That's a nice car....I would love to have it....and will be fun to race when you get it fixed....
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Old 03-02-2014, 09:17 AM   #62
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You are right...a ton of work required for no good reason. Pretty bummed about Moser atm...why use such cheap parts? I'm going to order those Calvert perches and have a local builder do the job. I may be wrong, but my gut feeling tells me Moser would be a long stall in getting any satisfaction and we want to race sometime this season.
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Old 03-02-2014, 09:32 AM   #63
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I would call Moser and give them an opportunity to correct the situation.They should be on the hook for this and fix it asap,saving you some $. If you don't get a warm fuzzy feeling on the phone then you may want to go elsewhere. With social media such as this forum I would hope they view this problem as an opportunity to provide a solution and turn it into a positive for all of us to read about !
The company I work for monitors the web constantly for any such issues and jumps all over them to minimize any damage to it's reputation.
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Old 03-02-2014, 09:41 AM   #64
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I would call Moser and give them an opportunity to correct the situation.They should be on the hook for this and fix it asap,saving you some $. If you don't get a warm fuzzy feeling on the phone then you may want to go elsewhere. With social media such as this forum I would hope they view this problem as an opportunity to provide a solution and turn it into a positive for all of us to read about !
The company I work for monitors the web constantly for any such issues and jumps all over them to minimize any damage to it's reputation.
The thing is Tim that even if they repair the housing or even replace it we would get the same thing back. They offer nothing different in the design of perches. I find it difficult to believe that this is the first or only instance of this happening to a Moser perch and them not hearing about it. That and taking no measures to rectify the problem.
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Old 03-02-2014, 09:41 AM   #65
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Did you extend the axle housing locator pin through those aluminum spacers and shim?
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I agree with Tim H. Moser has a good rep for supporting their customers.

You get better results with honey rather than vinegar...

They probably buy those perches from a vendor and on a street car they would be fine.

On a racecar with a 3 speed with a steep first gear they are not strong enough.

Should they know this...well yes they should. Call them.
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Old 03-02-2014, 09:48 AM   #67
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Did you extend the axle housing locator pin through those aluminum spacers and shim?
This is a must do...pin will pop out and rear will move. Been there done that 40+ years ago....
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Old 03-02-2014, 09:48 AM   #68
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Check out Calvets pinion angle shims .
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Old 03-02-2014, 09:58 AM   #69
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I agree with Tim H. Moser has a good rep for supporting their customers.

You get better results with honey rather than vinegar...

They probably buy those perches from a vendor and on a street car they would be fine.

On a racecar with a 3 speed with a steep first gear they are not strong enough.

Should they know this...well yes they should. Call them.
Not so much vinegar, but a lot of disappointment here. Worked our *** off on the car all winter to have this happen the first pass. Yeah, they will get a call for sure. This is a time killer more than labor involved for us. Don't you agree tho that as long as Moser has been in the game they would have some inkling of this problem? My partner ordered this housing directly from them on the phone and they knew full well the intended application.

For the prior post - The Calvert blocks have their own locating dowels which mesh with succeeding stacks. This was not an issue here as nothing slipped...the flimbsy perches merely collapsed.

When I call Moser I will ask if they will repair the housing and replace the perches with Calvert's which I will provide since they obviously don't have a suitable replacement. I'm off to the shop shortly to strip the housing out of the car.
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Old 03-02-2014, 10:14 AM   #70
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Didn't Paul Wong have something like this happen to his truck at Stanton last year?
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