Original hemi dart information - Page 331

jerry witzel · 10-06-2014, 09:00 PM

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Charlie A · 10-07-2014, 08:24 AM

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Like this pic. Good find:

hemid68 · 10-07-2014, 10:35 AM

This is a car I am familiar with. It came from Doak Dodge in Wood River, IL, my home town. Rich Hahenkamp's folks owned one of the best ice cream joints around (they made the best malts), but you don't really care about that.
I don't really remember seeing the car run when Hahnenkamp and Tite had it, but I'm sure I saw it run at Alton Dragway, in Alton, IL. I did see plenty of it after that. The car was altered with 1970 style quarter extensions, and a 1970 style grill, to run the Pro Stock circuit around St. Louis, MO. When I got my Dart in 1975 it had been modified with a '69 grill, and running lights, to run the same circuit, so they must have had a year rule, or something. I remember when the Hahnenkamp and Tite car was for sale in the local newspaper (remember those), and I looked at it, but I was in college, and no money. I believe it was something like $3500, with a bunch of parts, but not running. The car was then given to a local team of Jim England, and Tom Schneider Schneider & England). By this time Rich Hahnenkamp had opened a dance hall called the Music Room, in Wood River, IL. It was 1975 and the disco area. Jim England and I had a discussion about me joining there team, because I had a Hemi engine at the time, but I declined. Jim and Tom did a lot of work to the car, and I believe had the quarter extensions removed, and repaired, to where it ended up looking like it did originally. As I remember, they put together a Hemi, and it ran pretty well, and Jim England was a good driver, so they did fairly well running brackets around the St. Louis area. The last I knew the car went up for sale, and was bought by Dale Baker in the Springfield, IL area. So there is a little worthless trivia, on the Hahnenkamp and Tite Hemi Dart.

Liteweight · 10-07-2014, 11:42 AM

great story ( AND Memory Dan). Was this a LO23 car? Looks like it's got a vinyl hat with chrome trim on the drip rails

liteweight

Charlie A · 10-07-2014, 11:46 AM

Dale Baker Dart:
No rear side marker lights. Could have been filled if all the quarter panel mods are true...'68 to '70 back to '68.

Bret Kepner · 10-07-2014, 02:31 PM

Concerning the Hahnenkamp and Tite Dart, the B&W photo shows it running in F3/B with a two-barrel. It's POSSIBLE it was using a Hemi but I'd wager it was a 440.

hemitime · 10-07-2014, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Liteweight

This looks like the car Steve Atwell currently owns?

liteweight

Thats a former northeast car known as "Rickshaw" Last I knew it was owned by a guy named Joe Saunders In Florida ,note no rear side markers,Atwells dart has them.

Charlie A · 10-07-2014, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ddartdude

Saw this at the Hemi Reunion.......

Looks like I have to resize it.

Paul Ceasrine · 10-08-2014, 08:08 AM

Correct,

Not an original LO23 Hemi Dart.

Alton Dragway {Alton, Illinois} was an AHRA sanctioned track.
off og Route 140 and Fosterburg Road.

I was there a few times.

The Dart is classed in Formula Class 3/BS, which would indicate a
383 Engine and 4-Speed

FC3/BS = 380 to 399 Cubic Inches, and Hydraulic Camshaft

The AHRA did permit 'Hood Scoops' and minor body alterations in this Class.

Years ago I contacted the Track manager {Milton Kingston} about this
Dart.

ss wannabee · 10-08-2014, 09:31 AM

Paul or Bret? Not trying to steal this thread...but do you know if the Alton Dragway
Reunion ever happened? Would have been about 5-10 yrs ago...there were
problems...some people were trying to stop it...property issues, etc?

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10-07-2014, 10:35 AM	#3303
hemid68 Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 163 Likes: 172 Liked 8 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Original hemi dart information This is a car I am familiar with. It came from Doak Dodge in Wood River, IL, my home town. Rich Hahenkamp's folks owned one of the best ice cream joints around (they made the best malts), but you don't really care about that. I don't really remember seeing the car run when Hahnenkamp and Tite had it, but I'm sure I saw it run at Alton Dragway, in Alton, IL. I did see plenty of it after that. The car was altered with 1970 style quarter extensions, and a 1970 style grill, to run the Pro Stock circuit around St. Louis, MO. When I got my Dart in 1975 it had been modified with a '69 grill, and running lights, to run the same circuit, so they must have had a year rule, or something. I remember when the Hahnenkamp and Tite car was for sale in the local newspaper (remember those), and I looked at it, but I was in college, and no money. I believe it was something like $3500, with a bunch of parts, but not running. The car was then given to a local team of Jim England, and Tom Schneider Schneider & England). By this time Rich Hahnenkamp had opened a dance hall called the Music Room, in Wood River, IL. It was 1975 and the disco area. Jim England and I had a discussion about me joining there team, because I had a Hemi engine at the time, but I declined. Jim and Tom did a lot of work to the car, and I believe had the quarter extensions removed, and repaired, to where it ended up looking like it did originally. As I remember, they put together a Hemi, and it ran pretty well, and Jim England was a good driver, so they did fairly well running brackets around the St. Louis area. The last I knew the car went up for sale, and was bought by Dale Baker in the Springfield, IL area. So there is a little worthless trivia, on the Hahnenkamp and Tite Hemi Dart.

10-07-2014, 11:42 AM	#3304
Liteweight VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,280 Likes: 23 Liked 31 Times in 19 Posts	Re: Original hemi dart information great story ( AND Memory Dan). Was this a LO23 car? Looks like it's got a vinyl hat with chrome trim on the drip rails liteweight Last edited by Liteweight; 10-07-2014 at 11:51 AM.

10-07-2014, 11:46 AM	#3305
Charlie A VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Mississippi Gulf Coast Posts: 2,483 Likes: 68 Liked 87 Times in 63 Posts	Re: Original hemi dart information Dale Baker Dart: No rear side marker lights. Could have been filled if all the quarter panel mods are true...'68 to '70 back to '68. Last edited by Charlie A; 10-07-2014 at 11:52 AM.

10-07-2014, 02:31 PM	#3306
Bret Kepner Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Saint Louis, Missouri, USA Posts: 418 Likes: 1 Liked 11 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Original hemi dart information Concerning the Hahnenkamp and Tite Dart, the B&W photo shows it running in F3/B with a two-barrel. It's POSSIBLE it was using a Hemi but I'd wager it was a 440. __________________ Bret Kepner BRETKEPNER@Prodigy.net Saint Louis, Missouri, USA

10-08-2014, 08:08 AM	#3309
Paul Ceasrine VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,546 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 10 Posts	Re: Original hemi dart information Correct, Not an original LO23 Hemi Dart. Alton Dragway {Alton, Illinois} was an AHRA sanctioned track. off og Route 140 and Fosterburg Road. I was there a few times. The Dart is classed in Formula Class 3/BS, which would indicate a 383 Engine and 4-Speed FC3/BS = 380 to 399 Cubic Inches, and Hydraulic Camshaft The AHRA did permit 'Hood Scoops' and minor body alterations in this Class. Years ago I contacted the Track manager {Milton Kingston} about this Dart. Last edited by Paul Ceasrine; 10-08-2014 at 09:20 AM.

10-08-2014, 09:31 AM	#3310
ss wannabee Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 663 Likes: 0 Liked 7 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Original hemi dart information Paul or Bret? Not trying to steal this thread...but do you know if the Alton Dragway Reunion ever happened? Would have been about 5-10 yrs ago...there were problems...some people were trying to stop it...property issues, etc?