It's gonna be a long winter - Page 2

nickh · 12-02-2016, 12:48 PM

Billy let it fly brother don't hold back!! I have plenty of popcorn for the winter..LOL

Jeff Teuton · 12-02-2016, 01:50 PM

This is fun and some good proposals, but realistically I think all the decisions are made for next year. But why not propose them to NHRA via your DD or CA or IN? Those guys don't bite.

Jack Matyas · 12-02-2016, 02:25 PM

Geez Billy, this been some year for you - first you finally get a cell phone and now you 're part of the Liberalization movement .I for one am glad this year is almost over for you as I can't stand many more changes you might make .....

David Lee · 12-02-2016, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Billy Nees

So,************* I might as well get some blood flowing.
We're at the beginning of what is looking to be a new, conservative era in our Country's history. The Liberal and Conservative battle seems to finally be leaning towards moderation.
Ya know, there's a great, ongoing battle going on in Sportsman Racing, mainly affecting Stock and SS Racing too. IMHO, this battle is taking place between, not Liberals and Conservatives, but Car Guys and Racers. Now, I've always considered myself a bit of both but as I get older, I find myself being more of a Car Guy.
Where I'm going with all of this "baloney" is, is it time to start slowing down and backing up the "Liberalization of Stock and SS?
Over the years, We've seen loads of parts and pieces AND specs. approved for use that would never be found on a "Barrett-Jackson" car.
I've been told by a prominent member of this board that I'm not the one to be making these decisions because I have a "GM mind".
So, what's right, what's wrong, what should be allowed and what should be taken away? We've all got our own "pet peeves" and they're mostly the ones that the other guy in your Class is getting to use. What are YOUR personal "pet peeves" and "bogus" combos and why should they or shouldn't they be fixed?

And seeing as I'm the one starting this s**t fest, I'll go first.
283s with 327 intake manifolds.
273s with LD4B intakes.
All of the Police Interceptor FFFords.
Early 70s 351 FFFords with Holley carbs.

Yeah, it could be a long, bloody winter.

How many people are actuaaly running these combos vs cars that have never been real cars run on the street?

Robert Simpson · 12-02-2016, 03:34 PM

Ok sounds like fun.

AFX style hood on the 65 289 comet??
459 intake on 283's

Enforce rules we have. But, consider some changes.

1) All Auto's in SS and S have to shift manually. The stick driver do.
2) Do not allow elec shift in Stock FI cars. None of them are racing the 4-speed autos so you are not granted the elec shift.
3) Mandatory seat pressure (Example) max on all SB Flat tappet lifter, ex 110pds on seat, 125pds an SB HYD rollers. 125 on BB Flat tappet lifters etc.
4) 4 years on the seat belts not 2.
5) Remove the Roll Cage rule so some SS Crate Engine Classes that by there ET don't require a cage. (Michael Beard Rule)

These are just some Idea's

I know nothing will be considered. Does anyone have a breakdown of what is paid for a divisional win or national? W/RU/Semi etc?

Ed Wright · 12-02-2016, 04:33 PM

I liked running off national records myself, but it got to where we weren't have enough cars show up. Slow guys quit coming, they went bracket racing. So we now have these *extremely* soft indexes a street car could run under. Just bracket racing now, unless you have a heads up.

Dennis P Chapman · 12-02-2016, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Matyas

Geez Billy, this been some year for you - first you finally get a cell phone and now you 're part of the Liberalization movement .I for one am glad this year is almost over for you as I can't stand many more changes you might make .....

Jack he really got a cell phone dam Lol

Dave Noll · 12-02-2016, 07:08 PM

Given the rumors flying around about ProStock, the trend seems to be kill a class and start another one.I don't have a problem with Stock the way it is now. As long as they don't turn it into SS.I finally have my chance to try Stock and I am liking the technical challenge. Not so much the wallet drainage but that comes with any car.To be completely fair , there would have to be every single car in the "Guide" in every single class running out there. I think AHFS is probably the best option.

ALMACK · 12-02-2016, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Great idea. Actually a few guys here actually submitted such a proposal. It's been ignored, as of today.

Take 20% off ALL gross rated cars that haven't been run in 5 years.
Not just 383's, 426's, 428 Pontiacs...ALL . Fair is fair.
Billy , care to elaborate ?

Better yet, 20% off any combo in the classification guide that has not run one single pass under index in the past 5 years

James Perrone · 12-02-2016, 08:00 PM

How about approval of a Yenko Nova? I'm told they didn't make em!
I'm tired of faking my way through life I'm American yet my eyes is slanted and my daddy Jim Marshal stopped sending my UNICEF allowance . He said due to the new administration and my slow azzz car he cannot accept me as family till after Inauguration Day to make sure my eyes get straightened out or by a set off sun glasses

12-02-2016, 12:48 PM	#11
nickh Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Houston,Texas Posts: 818 Likes: 3,477 Liked 638 Times in 191 Posts	Re: It's gonna be a long winter Billy let it fly brother don't hold back!! I have plenty of popcorn for the winter..LOL

12-02-2016, 01:50 PM	#12
Jeff Teuton VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houma, LA Posts: 2,717 Likes: 2 Liked 325 Times in 50 Posts	Re: It's gonna be a long winter This is fun and some good proposals, but realistically I think all the decisions are made for next year. But why not propose them to NHRA via your DD or CA or IN? Those guys don't bite. __________________ Jeff Teuton 4022 STK

12-02-2016, 02:25 PM	#13
Jack Matyas Live Reporter Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Bethlehem , PA -Christmas City , USA Posts: 4,926 Likes: 406 Liked 2,046 Times in 398 Posts	Re: It's gonna be a long winter Geez Billy, this been some year for you - first you finally get a cell phone and now you 're part of the Liberalization movement .I for one am glad this year is almost over for you as I can't stand many more changes you might make ..... __________________ Jack Matyas 1547 FS/C 2015 Camaro COPO # 62- 2012 Camaro Convertible COPO

12-02-2016, 03:34 PM	#15
Robert Simpson Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Jacksonville, Florida Posts: 807 Likes: 7 Liked 20 Times in 12 Posts	Re: It's gonna be a long winter Ok sounds like fun. AFX style hood on the 65 289 comet?? 459 intake on 283's Enforce rules we have. But, consider some changes. 1) All Auto's in SS and S have to shift manually. The stick driver do. 2) Do not allow elec shift in Stock FI cars. None of them are racing the 4-speed autos so you are not granted the elec shift. 3) Mandatory seat pressure (Example) max on all SB Flat tappet lifter, ex 110pds on seat, 125pds an SB HYD rollers. 125 on BB Flat tappet lifters etc. 4) 4 years on the seat belts not 2. 5) Remove the Roll Cage rule so some SS Crate Engine Classes that by there ET don't require a cage. (Michael Beard Rule) These are just some Idea's I know nothing will be considered. Does anyone have a breakdown of what is paid for a divisional win or national? W/RU/Semi etc?

12-02-2016, 04:33 PM	#16
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: It's gonna be a long winter I liked running off national records myself, but it got to where we weren't have enough cars show up. Slow guys quit coming, they went bracket racing. So we now have these extremely soft indexes a street car could run under. Just bracket racing now, unless you have a heads up. __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

12-02-2016, 07:08 PM	#18
Dave Noll Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Div. 6, Eastern, WA Posts: 709 Likes: 2,654 Liked 238 Times in 111 Posts	Re: It's gonna be a long winter Given the rumors flying around about ProStock, the trend seems to be kill a class and start another one.I don't have a problem with Stock the way it is now. As long as they don't turn it into SS.I finally have my chance to try Stock and I am liking the technical challenge. Not so much the wallet drainage but that comes with any car.To be completely fair , there would have to be every single car in the "Guide" in every single class running out there. I think AHFS is probably the best option. __________________ Dave Noll, EF/S ,?/SA 6526

12-02-2016, 08:00 PM	#20
James Perrone VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: LONG ISLAND N.Y. Posts: 1,669 Likes: 3,353 Liked 1,803 Times in 422 Posts	Re: It's gonna be a long winter How about approval of a Yenko Nova? I'm told they didn't make em! I'm tired of faking my way through life I'm American yet my eyes is slanted and my daddy Jim Marshal stopped sending my UNICEF allowance . He said due to the new administration and my slow azzz car he cannot accept me as family till after Inauguration Day to make sure my eyes get straightened out or by a set off sun glasses __________________ james perrone 1290 STK