1986 tpi 350

brian schuetta · 04-30-2018, 07:02 PM

Bought an engine on the west side of San Antonio yesterday, was told it was a 1987 or 1988 Z/28 350 TPI. When I get there it is a TPI engine but it was different in some ways, perimeter valve covers, no 9th injector, 1 piece rear main 638 block. Fifty dollars later they load it in my truck using a dog leash instead of a chain hung on an engine hoist. So does anybody know about the 86' TPI engines? It has 261 heads. 1986 was a year in transition for the SBC. I haven't pulled the intake yet but could the 638 block be a non-roller block? I have other 638s and they are two bolt main 350s, the 880s are four bolts. I did pull a valve cover and it was very clean like could have been rebuilt clean. Opinions? A pieced together engine?

ss3011 · 04-30-2018, 08:36 PM

We used to run one in a SCCA Show Room Stock Camaro . The 350 TunePort was only available with an automatic transmission . Most of the other guys ran 305HO , QuadraJet , engines with a 5 spd manual . Our advantage was using the torque of the engine , and never revved it over 4000 rpm . Got much better fuel economy than the 305 crowd . These were typically 12 or 24 hour races , and you won if you had the most laps .

brian schuetta · 04-30-2018, 09:26 PM

What year car?

ss3011 · 05-01-2018, 07:33 AM

1986

Ed Wright · 05-01-2018, 11:30 AM

1989 was the first year with no "9th injector".

mtkawboy · 05-01-2018, 05:11 PM

What is the 9th injector ?

ss3011 · 05-01-2018, 06:25 PM

It is used to enrich the mixture during cold starts .

killintime6968 · 05-01-2018, 07:24 PM

The 350 Tunedport engine did not come out till 1987. In 1986 engine choice in the Z/28 were 305 tunedport or quadrajet. The Players Challenge series Camaro and Firebirds ran with the 305 tunedport setup and 5spds. Clutches and rear brake pads were allways being changed. We got real good/fast at changing them out.

Ed Wright · 05-02-2018, 03:16 PM

I have been working with TPI engines since 1985. On the 350" only in the Corvettes, 305"s in the Camaro/Firebirds. The 9th injector for cold starts used until 1989. Mass Air Flow sensors used until 1990, first year for Speed Density Mode (MAP sensor used instead of MAF sensor.) MAP stands for Manifold Absolute Pressure, which is Barometer minus Manifold Vacuum. Measures Baro at key-on, before start up, then vacuum/MAP.
Had a lot of 1985 305" Tuned Port Injected Camaros/Firebirds across my dyno.

brian schuetta · 05-03-2018, 08:54 AM

I got around to taking it apart last night. First I was wrong there is a ninth injector. The block is a 1 piece rear main seal. It has high lifter bores with the bosses for the spider but they are not tapped. Cam is flat tappet. So my next question is, were there 350 Camaros in 1986? Were the engines in the 1987 Camaros using perimeter fastened valve covers? The fuel rails and manifold numbers are for 85 - 87 F bodies.

04-30-2018, 07:02 PM	#1
brian schuetta Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: san antonio tx Posts: 259 Likes: 5 Liked 28 Times in 15 Posts	1986 tpi 350 Bought an engine on the west side of San Antonio yesterday, was told it was a 1987 or 1988 Z/28 350 TPI. When I get there it is a TPI engine but it was different in some ways, perimeter valve covers, no 9th injector, 1 piece rear main 638 block. Fifty dollars later they load it in my truck using a dog leash instead of a chain hung on an engine hoist. So does anybody know about the 86' TPI engines? It has 261 heads. 1986 was a year in transition for the SBC. I haven't pulled the intake yet but could the 638 block be a non-roller block? I have other 638s and they are two bolt main 350s, the 880s are four bolts. I did pull a valve cover and it was very clean like could have been rebuilt clean. Opinions? A pieced together engine?

04-30-2018, 08:36 PM	#2
ss3011 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Southeast Michigan Posts: 909 Likes: 70 Liked 239 Times in 114 Posts	Re: 1986 tpi 350 We used to run one in a SCCA Show Room Stock Camaro . The 350 TunePort was only available with an automatic transmission . Most of the other guys ran 305HO , QuadraJet , engines with a 5 spd manual . Our advantage was using the torque of the engine , and never revved it over 4000 rpm . Got much better fuel economy than the 305 crowd . These were typically 12 or 24 hour races , and you won if you had the most laps .

04-30-2018, 09:26 PM	#3
brian schuetta Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: san antonio tx Posts: 259 Likes: 5 Liked 28 Times in 15 Posts	Re: 1986 tpi 350 What year car?

05-01-2018, 07:33 AM	#4
ss3011 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Southeast Michigan Posts: 909 Likes: 70 Liked 239 Times in 114 Posts	Re: 1986 tpi 350 1986

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Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: 1986 tpi 350 1989 was the first year with no "9th injector". __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

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mtkawboy Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Billings Mt Posts: 282 Likes: 186 Liked 54 Times in 18 Posts	Re: 1986 tpi 350 What is the 9th injector ?

05-01-2018, 06:25 PM	#7
ss3011 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Southeast Michigan Posts: 909 Likes: 70 Liked 239 Times in 114 Posts	Re: 1986 tpi 350 It is used to enrich the mixture during cold starts .

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killintime6968 Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Whitecourt,Alberta,Canada Posts: 236 Likes: 4,634 Liked 91 Times in 29 Posts	Re: 1986 tpi 350 The 350 Tunedport engine did not come out till 1987. In 1986 engine choice in the Z/28 were 305 tunedport or quadrajet. The Players Challenge series Camaro and Firebirds ran with the 305 tunedport setup and 5spds. Clutches and rear brake pads were allways being changed. We got real good/fast at changing them out. __________________ Bruce Cameron 68 Nova 396 E/S 68 Camaro SS/? ex Checkmate Modified

05-02-2018, 03:16 PM	#9
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: 1986 tpi 350 I have been working with TPI engines since 1985. On the 350" only in the Corvettes, 305"s in the Camaro/Firebirds. The 9th injector for cold starts used until 1989. Mass Air Flow sensors used until 1990, first year for Speed Density Mode (MAP sensor used instead of MAF sensor.) MAP stands for Manifold Absolute Pressure, which is Barometer minus Manifold Vacuum. Measures Baro at key-on, before start up, then vacuum/MAP. Had a lot of 1985 305" Tuned Port Injected Camaros/Firebirds across my dyno. __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA Last edited by Ed Wright; 05-02-2018 at 03:20 PM.

05-03-2018, 08:54 AM	#10
brian schuetta Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: san antonio tx Posts: 259 Likes: 5 Liked 28 Times in 15 Posts	Re: 1986 tpi 350 I got around to taking it apart last night. First I was wrong there is a ninth injector. The block is a 1 piece rear main seal. It has high lifter bores with the bosses for the spider but they are not tapped. Cam is flat tappet. So my next question is, were there 350 Camaros in 1986? Were the engines in the 1987 Camaros using perimeter fastened valve covers? The fuel rails and manifold numbers are for 85 - 87 F bodies.