Woodfin's SS GT/TB construction series

duke66 · 12-07-2018, 05:55 PM

Been a while since we talked and we did finish my son's truck. With a 385, He has a best of 6.36,@ 108. 59% on the front.
Just wonder what your percentages are and the settings on the 4 link?

Dragsinger · 01-06-2019, 10:55 PM

As it works out, I have the truck at my shop for some minor work before the season begins.

I do not know the weight bias but do have notes about the four-link setting and will post that soon.

duke66 · 01-07-2019, 12:37 PM

Thanks, I'm an old Modified racer and am always thinking about tuning. We are going to 5.14's from the 4.86's and 31 or 32" tires and taking the 29.5's off. Trying for a little more consistency.

jbt352 · 01-07-2019, 02:48 PM

Larry,
I will be interested as well.
We messaged back and fourth a few months ago.
We are doing a short bed S10 with a 6.0L for bracket racing
and are doing the final assembly on the rear end.
Thanks again.

Dragsinger · 01-07-2019, 09:54 PM

The Super 10 is built with a Chassis Engineering four-link kit #3513. You can go to the Chassis Engineering website, under "instructions" the kit is installed per those instructions at the ride height/axle height per the instructions.

The instructions also include a chart showing instant center for all possible locations. Tomorrow I will post a photo showing were the Super 10 links are located.

Note; it has a 32 x 14 tire.

jbt352 · 01-11-2019, 02:11 PM

Larry,
So you feel with the correct bar placement we may not need to run any weight?
I have been told that 4 links work better with higher hp cars?
Do you see us having problems with only being in the 500hp range.
We will have the room for up to a 14X32 tire if need.
I know there are a lot of people going faster then we will be with leaf springs and cal tracs and smaller tires.

Dragsinger · 01-11-2019, 04:23 PM

352,

you will need to experiment. There is to reason to carry extra weight if it is not needed.

And about a lower powered four-link. I thank it is always OK to have a four-link no matter the power level.

With your reference to Cal-Tracks, the geometry of that is very much like a four-link. The spring front attachment being the upper bar point and the Cal-Track the lower bar point where those two lines would cross.

duke66 · 01-12-2019, 01:25 AM

My son's 385 is only around 550HP. He has a best of 1.36, 60 foot and 6.36, 1/8 mile. He ran 10.22/131 in Topeka. His truck is 2850 lbs with him in it. That's with 4.86 rear and 13.5 x 29.5 tires.
The truck is 59% front and 41% rear. Only 5 gallon fuel cell and12 volt red top battery in the back of the bed.
We are switching to 5.14's and 13.5/31 tires. Our local track is usually a little iffy,so just putting a little more rubber under it.

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Hacksaw · 01-10-2019, 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duke66

Been a while since we talked and we did finish my son's truck. With a 385, He has a best of 6.36,@ 108. 59% on the front.
Just wonder what your percentages are and the settings on the 4 link?

I built a SS/GT truck and the best I could get was 45% on the rear.

jbt352 · 01-10-2019, 09:23 AM

Hacksaw, how much weight was added to the rear of the truck?
I have seen some set up for bracket racing with a couple hundred pounds added. I just hate the thought of adding weight to a race car.

12-07-2018, 05:55 PM	#1
duke66 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 17 Likes: 1 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Woodfin's SS GT/TB construction series Been a while since we talked and we did finish my son's truck. With a 385, He has a best of 6.36,@ 108. 59% on the front. Just wonder what your percentages are and the settings on the 4 link?

01-06-2019, 10:55 PM	#2
Dragsinger VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Liberty City [East Texas] Posts: 1,760 Likes: 5 Liked 99 Times in 60 Posts	Re: Woodfin's SS GT/TB construction series As it works out, I have the truck at my shop for some minor work before the season begins. I do not know the weight bias but do have notes about the four-link setting and will post that soon. __________________ Larry Woodfin 471W

01-07-2019, 02:48 PM	#4
jbt352 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 20 Likes: 0 Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Woodfin's SS GT/TB construction series Larry, I will be interested as well. We messaged back and fourth a few months ago. We are doing a short bed S10 with a 6.0L for bracket racing and are doing the final assembly on the rear end. Thanks again. Last edited by jbt352; 01-07-2019 at 03:30 PM.

01-07-2019, 09:54 PM	#5
Dragsinger VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Liberty City [East Texas] Posts: 1,760 Likes: 5 Liked 99 Times in 60 Posts	Re: Woodfin's SS GT/TB construction series The Super 10 is built with a Chassis Engineering four-link kit #3513. You can go to the Chassis Engineering website, under "instructions" the kit is installed per those instructions at the ride height/axle height per the instructions. The instructions also include a chart showing instant center for all possible locations. Tomorrow I will post a photo showing were the Super 10 links are located. Note; it has a 32 x 14 tire. __________________ Larry Woodfin 471W

01-11-2019, 02:11 PM	#6
jbt352 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 20 Likes: 0 Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Woodfin's SS GT/TB construction series Larry, So you feel with the correct bar placement we may not need to run any weight? I have been told that 4 links work better with higher hp cars? Do you see us having problems with only being in the 500hp range. We will have the room for up to a 14X32 tire if need. I know there are a lot of people going faster then we will be with leaf springs and cal tracs and smaller tires.

01-07-2019, 12:37 PM	#3
duke66 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 17 Likes: 1 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Woodfin's SS GT/TB construction series Thanks, I'm an old Modified racer and am always thinking about tuning. We are going to 5.14's from the 4.86's and 31 or 32" tires and taking the 29.5's off. Trying for a little more consistency.

01-11-2019, 04:23 PM	#7
Dragsinger VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Liberty City [East Texas] Posts: 1,760 Likes: 5 Liked 99 Times in 60 Posts	Re: Woodfin's SS GT/TB construction series 352, you will need to experiment. There is to reason to carry extra weight if it is not needed. And about a lower powered four-link. I thank it is always OK to have a four-link no matter the power level. With your reference to Cal-Tracks, the geometry of that is very much like a four-link. The spring front attachment being the upper bar point and the Cal-Track the lower bar point where those two lines would cross. __________________ Larry Woodfin 471W

01-12-2019, 01:25 AM	#8
duke66 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 17 Likes: 1 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Woodfin's SS GT/TB construction series My son's 385 is only around 550HP. He has a best of 1.36, 60 foot and 6.36, 1/8 mile. He ran 10.22/131 in Topeka. His truck is 2850 lbs with him in it. That's with 4.86 rear and 13.5 x 29.5 tires. The truck is 59% front and 41% rear. Only 5 gallon fuel cell and12 volt red top battery in the back of the bed. We are switching to 5.14's and 13.5/31 tires. Our local track is usually a little iffy,so just putting a little more rubber under it.

01-10-2019, 09:23 AM	#10
jbt352 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 20 Likes: 0 Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Woodfin's SS GT/TB construction series Hacksaw, how much weight was added to the rear of the truck? I have seen some set up for bracket racing with a couple hundred pounds added. I just hate the thought of adding weight to a race car.