Continuing the quota discussion

Mike Pearson · 01-14-2019, 11:11 AM

The real problem with the quotas is the amount of classes they have now running the national events. Back when I started the classes were
Too fuel
Funny car
Pro Comp
Pro stock
Comp
Modified
Super stock
Stock

Now
Too fuel
Funny car
Alcohol dragster
Alcohol funny car
Pro mod
Pro stock
Pro stock motorcycle
Too dragster
Top sportsman
Comp
Super stock
Stock
Super comp
Super gas
Super street

To make this happen NHRA has taken away quota from stock and Super stock to make room for these newer classes.
One other observation on my part. Provisional entries should never counted toward the quota seeing how they don’t need grade points to enter.

rognelson777 · 01-14-2019, 12:00 PM

Unfortunately one problem I see is the withdrawal of racers at the last minute. The reason this is a problem is NHRA sets quotas based on previous attendance. Many times I see stock and super stock not at quota on the last day of entry because of all the withdrawals. It is a never ending downward spiral for quotas.

Only solutions I see is no refunds for withdrawals (sucks if you break your car). Hot rod drag week is a $400 pre entry and if you withdrawal no money back. Many big dollar bracket races are the same way.

alternate Change withdrawal dates. Make it 3 weeks before event or you do not get money back, so there will be time for others to change schedule so they can take off work and enter.

I would also like to see pit spaces assigned by amount of grade points. This way racers do not have to take off a whole week to get in line for stacking on monday to race on friday, especially since there is no thursday tech

Lenny5160 · 01-14-2019, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by rognelson777

I would also like to see pit spaces assigned by amount of grade points. This way racers do not have to take off a whole week to get in line for stacking on monday to race on friday, especially since there is no thursday tech

I arrive at events as late as anybody. I have never been denied the opportunity to race because I didn't spend days in stacking.

Larry Hill · 01-14-2019, 03:42 PM

I would say top to bottom all of the racers with provisional entries try to enter after the field is full. Very few forget and enter before that final Monday the week of the race. So in effect the racers with provisional entries are not counted until the quota is full. Hats off to former World Champs, top ten in national points, last years race winner, and divisional champs for waiting to enter .

voltdr · 01-14-2019, 04:28 PM

Larry, This is from the NHRA website. No one can enter after the field is closed.

Provisional entries must enter the event online at www.nhraeventreg.com
prior to the deadline date/time (1:00 PM
Pacific time Monday of race week). Provisional entries WILL NOT be
accepted after the event deadline date/time. A provisional driver that enters an event and then withdraws, will NOT be allowed to re-enter.

Jim Caughlin · 01-14-2019, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by voltdr

Larry, This is from the NHRA website. No one can enter after the field is closed.

Provisional entries must enter the event online at www.nhraeventreg.com
prior to the deadline date/time (1:00 PM
Pacific time Monday of race week). Provisional entries WILL NOT be
accepted after the event deadline date/time. A provisional driver that enters an event and then withdraws, will NOT be allowed to re-enter.

I think what Larry meant was that provisionals are usually nice about letting the quota fill before they enter so their entries don't affect the car count. They still get their entries in before the deadline, just after the quota got filled.

Larry Hill · 01-15-2019, 05:37 AM

Dan I changed closed to full. How I wrote it was incorrect thanks for the correction.

Bobby DiDomenico · 01-15-2019, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim Caughlin

I think what Larry meant was that provisionals are usually nice about letting the quota fill before they enter so their entries don't affect the car count. They still get their entries in before the deadline, just after the quota got filled.

Ok, since NHRA lets them in even with a full quota anyway, why make them wait?
Seems simple, just let them enter anytime and have it not count against the tally.

01-14-2019, 11:11 AM	#1
Mike Pearson VIP Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,468 Likes: 629 Liked 1,967 Times in 595 Posts	Re: Continuing the quota discussion The real problem with the quotas is the amount of classes they have now running the national events. Back when I started the classes were Too fuel Funny car Pro Comp Pro stock Comp Modified Super stock Stock Now Too fuel Funny car Alcohol dragster Alcohol funny car Pro mod Pro stock Pro stock motorcycle Too dragster Top sportsman Comp Super stock Stock Super comp Super gas Super street To make this happen NHRA has taken away quota from stock and Super stock to make room for these newer classes. One other observation on my part. Provisional entries should never counted toward the quota seeing how they don’t need grade points to enter. __________________ Mike Pearson 2485 SS

01-14-2019, 12:00 PM	#2
rognelson777 Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 376 Likes: 20 Liked 135 Times in 74 Posts	Re: Continuing the quota discussion Unfortunately one problem I see is the withdrawal of racers at the last minute. The reason this is a problem is NHRA sets quotas based on previous attendance. Many times I see stock and super stock not at quota on the last day of entry because of all the withdrawals. It is a never ending downward spiral for quotas. Only solutions I see is no refunds for withdrawals (sucks if you break your car). Hot rod drag week is a $400 pre entry and if you withdrawal no money back. Many big dollar bracket races are the same way. alternate Change withdrawal dates. Make it 3 weeks before event or you do not get money back, so there will be time for others to change schedule so they can take off work and enter. I would also like to see pit spaces assigned by amount of grade points. This way racers do not have to take off a whole week to get in line for stacking on monday to race on friday, especially since there is no thursday tech Last edited by rognelson777; 01-14-2019 at 12:04 PM.

01-14-2019, 03:42 PM	#4
Larry Hill Live Reporter Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hickory, Ky Posts: 10,673 Likes: 1,989 Liked 10,930 Times in 2,258 Posts	Re: Continuing the quota discussion I would say top to bottom all of the racers with provisional entries try to enter after the field is full. Very few forget and enter before that final Monday the week of the race. So in effect the racers with provisional entries are not counted until the quota is full. Hats off to former World Champs, top ten in national points, last years race winner, and divisional champs for waiting to enter . __________________ IHM Used Parts https://ihmusedparts.com 888-821-1817 Last edited by Larry Hill; 01-15-2019 at 05:32 AM. Reason: Change closed to full

01-14-2019, 04:28 PM	#5
voltdr Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 706 Likes: 77 Liked 100 Times in 51 Posts	Re: Continuing the quota discussion Larry, This is from the NHRA website. No one can enter after the field is closed. Provisional entries must enter the event online at www.nhraeventreg.com prior to the deadline date/time (1:00 PM Pacific time Monday of race week). Provisional entries WILL NOT be accepted after the event deadline date/time. A provisional driver that enters an event and then withdraws, will NOT be allowed to re-enter. __________________ Dan Foley SC 4698

01-15-2019, 05:37 AM	#7
Larry Hill Live Reporter Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hickory, Ky Posts: 10,673 Likes: 1,989 Liked 10,930 Times in 2,258 Posts	Re: Continuing the quota discussion Dan I changed closed to full. How I wrote it was incorrect thanks for the correction. __________________ IHM Used Parts https://ihmusedparts.com 888-821-1817