X /Stock ? - Page 4

Mark Yacavone · 03-19-2020, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by RickF

The tech. specs. show it with a throttle body, what needs to be done with the electronics? Thanks again.

I just noticed this.
The throttle body spec is for the air inlet. However, it is not a wet throttle body.
It is PFI (port fuel injection)..Remember what I said about the modern, torque inducing design.

Dwight Southerland · 03-19-2020, 07:14 PM

There was one of these built and raced in the Memphis are way back in the 1990s. It was very fast then.

Mark Yacavone · 01-21-2023, 11:59 AM

See thread in S/SS section that used to be at the top of the pile on this site ;-)

Mark Yacavone · 05-01-2023, 07:46 PM

Oh yes... One more "tech" item.

Local, name brand pump gas allowed.

(This is supposed to be an entry level class..whatever that means)

Mark Yacavone · 05-01-2023, 08:03 PM

Best rule item yet...

You must show up with used 9" radials, bought from the guys with the 8-9 second factory "Stockers" LOL ;-) ;-)

djm670 · 05-05-2024, 08:22 PM

Late to the party, I was just looking for something that speaks to the rear axle in a modern 454 Corvette stocker after watching Rylie Trumble at No Problem Raceway today.

Long story short, I built a pro shifted 3 speed transmission for Doolittles X/SA Comet. Wanted to beat Rieder and Wallace for class at 1976 US Nationals, was tired of getting beat by him that year. That was the last year you could run flat out to win. Unfortunately I was not able to talk him out of the car. He did not want to run one of mine as they were all sticks. I should have had a plan to put an automatic in one of them. Anyway, they let me do it the week after Indy with Judy's similar car. Two weeks later there was a stock superstock combo race at Central Michigan dragway. We out qualified W&R by 0.15 seconds. I believe that after indy we were always racing on the brakes, I believe the rule changed the next week. Anyway, we put the trans and clutch set up in Harry's Comet and I drove thru the Summer Nationals that year. We were low #1 qualifier at the Winternationals and all that got us was the opportunity to pull a rod and a piston. Fortunately it was easy to do with a 200 6. I think the best I did with it was get to the semi finals at the summer nationals where I broke out.. and said no more. We used to put restrictor gaskets under the carb to slow it down and at E town we had put the smallest one we had in it before the semi final.

I assume that if one wanted to have a better chance of winning with a slow car, it would be to have one with feedback efi.. to improve the consistancy. We set the record a few times with the stick. I want to say we were around 15.20 or .30 at the 77 winters. I will say it was a fun car to drive. And we never broke anything. The ford 3 speed has the same cluster main drive vertical spacing so you can use 4 speed ford top loader gears, just have to narrow them a bit to get in the 3 speed case.

I don't think I would build a car below f/sa if one wanted to win National events on a fairly regular basis. And with the advent of the Factory stock cars that can go well into the 8 second bracket, that is probably a pipe dream the way they treat tracks today for traction.

My two cents on the subject. Harry's old Comet is still be run today believe it is running in W/S with the advent of front wheel drive cars. And it is still very competitive for class.

Billy Nees · 05-06-2024, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by djm670

I assume that if one wanted to have a better chance of winning with a slow car, it would be to have one with feedback efi..

Ummm.......... I can agree with that.

lewis Becker · 05-07-2024, 10:51 AM

billy,SS/X.!

Chuck Weissberg · 11-18-2024, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Ummm.......... I can agree with that.

but Billy, YOU are the "slow" class WIZARD

Chuck Weissberg · 11-18-2024, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by impstocker

How about a 3rd Generation Camaro or Firebird? I know the 1985's came with a Iron Duke 151 TBI Almost started the project years back, parts were collected, still have, like a Mini-Spool for a 7.5 rear with 4:56 gears..all types of blocks..even a couple with Chevy bellhousing bolt patterns. Would have fell into W , maybe a little heavy too..took to track once just as it was..ran 19.60's..slipped on a smaller rear tire, ran a 19.30..

Will Lamprecht
65 Impala I/SA turning into a I/Stick
1997 Mustang V6 T/SA project with brother.

I believe Billty Nees said the mains cannot hold up on the iron duke 4

03-19-2020, 07:14 PM	#32
Dwight Southerland VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Arkansas - In the middle of everything. Posts: 2,000 Likes: 64 Liked 777 Times in 193 Posts	Re: X /Stock ? There was one of these built and raced in the Memphis are way back in the 1990s. It was very fast then. __________________

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Mark Yacavone Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Miles From Nowhere Posts: 7,814 Likes: 2,903 Liked 5,117 Times in 1,949 Posts	Re: X /Stock ? See thread in S/SS section that used to be at the top of the pile on this site ;-) __________________ "We are lucky we don't get as much Government as we pay for." Will Rogers

05-01-2023, 07:46 PM	#34
Mark Yacavone Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Miles From Nowhere Posts: 7,814 Likes: 2,903 Liked 5,117 Times in 1,949 Posts	Re: X /Stock ? Oh yes... One more "tech" item. Local, name brand pump gas allowed. (This is supposed to be an entry level class..whatever that means) __________________ "We are lucky we don't get as much Government as we pay for." Will Rogers

05-01-2023, 08:03 PM	#35
Mark Yacavone Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Miles From Nowhere Posts: 7,814 Likes: 2,903 Liked 5,117 Times in 1,949 Posts	Re: X /Stock ? Best rule item yet... You must show up with used 9" radials, bought from the guys with the 8-9 second factory "Stockers" LOL ;-) ;-) __________________ "We are lucky we don't get as much Government as we pay for." Will Rogers

05-05-2024, 08:22 PM	#36
djm670 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Fenton, Mi. Posts: 92 Likes: 429 Liked 186 Times in 48 Posts	Re: X /Stock ? Late to the party, I was just looking for something that speaks to the rear axle in a modern 454 Corvette stocker after watching Rylie Trumble at No Problem Raceway today. Long story short, I built a pro shifted 3 speed transmission for Doolittles X/SA Comet. Wanted to beat Rieder and Wallace for class at 1976 US Nationals, was tired of getting beat by him that year. That was the last year you could run flat out to win. Unfortunately I was not able to talk him out of the car. He did not want to run one of mine as they were all sticks. I should have had a plan to put an automatic in one of them. Anyway, they let me do it the week after Indy with Judy's similar car. Two weeks later there was a stock superstock combo race at Central Michigan dragway. We out qualified W&R by 0.15 seconds. I believe that after indy we were always racing on the brakes, I believe the rule changed the next week. Anyway, we put the trans and clutch set up in Harry's Comet and I drove thru the Summer Nationals that year. We were low #1 qualifier at the Winternationals and all that got us was the opportunity to pull a rod and a piston. Fortunately it was easy to do with a 200 6. I think the best I did with it was get to the semi finals at the summer nationals where I broke out.. and said no more. We used to put restrictor gaskets under the carb to slow it down and at E town we had put the smallest one we had in it before the semi final. I assume that if one wanted to have a better chance of winning with a slow car, it would be to have one with feedback efi.. to improve the consistancy. We set the record a few times with the stick. I want to say we were around 15.20 or .30 at the 77 winters. I will say it was a fun car to drive. And we never broke anything. The ford 3 speed has the same cluster main drive vertical spacing so you can use 4 speed ford top loader gears, just have to narrow them a bit to get in the 3 speed case. I don't think I would build a car below f/sa if one wanted to win National events on a fairly regular basis. And with the advent of the Factory stock cars that can go well into the 8 second bracket, that is probably a pipe dream the way they treat tracks today for traction. My two cents on the subject. Harry's old Comet is still be run today believe it is running in W/S with the advent of front wheel drive cars. And it is still very competitive for class.

05-07-2024, 10:51 AM	#38
lewis Becker Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 33 Likes: 114 Liked 15 Times in 8 Posts	Re: X /Stock ? billy,SS/X.!