Best Pontiac Powered Stockers

oldskool · 08-16-2020, 05:25 PM

Hey, 10.80, with a Stock legal Pontiac 350 ain't too shabby !

This is just an opinion question. Would the '69 #48 350HO heads, with their larger valves, make much difference in power output ?

Adam Strang · 08-16-2020, 05:35 PM

Hard to say with the bigger valve being closer to the side of the bore.

oldskool · 08-16-2020, 11:14 PM

Breaker ! Breaker !

As was reported elsewhere on this site, Randi Lyn Shipp won a $10k check for winning a Stock/SS combo race !

The BIG check is made out to ROCKET SHIPP.

http://classracer.com/classforum/sho...78&postcount=6

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...&theater&ifg=1

oldskool · 08-19-2020, 07:51 PM

OK, the next '77 / '78 Bird I wanna look at is the Dave Ribeiro Bird.

A pic I have shows lettering saying it was a nat record holder in '98 & '99. So, it should show up on the earliest DRC files. I'll take a look & begin posting links to some of those race results.

4/17/98 - Fram Nats - #8 - .779 under.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r1998#indextop

On this list, just below Dave is John Rodnite, in a '77 Lemans. Not familiar with that name. Don Himes was not far behind, @ # 10, in his '77 GP.

4/24/98 - Pennzoil Nats - #7 - .946 under.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r1998#indextop

5/16/98 - Englishtown - #9 1.096 under. Carol Yacavone was #8. We'll look closer at that car, in coming posts.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r1998#indextop

5/24/98 - Maple Grove - #1 - 1.103 under.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r1998#indextop

8/15/98 - Englishtown div 1 - #7 - .940 under. Dean Ribeiro was #6, in a '77 Lemans.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r1998#indextop

9/18/98 - Keystone Nats - #12 - .942 under. Paul Dilcher was #6. We'll look closer at the Dilcher Bird, soon.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r1998#indextop

3/19/99 - Gators - #12 - 1.116 under - L/SA class winner.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r1999#indextop

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r1999#indextop

By the way, this is a race that Lee Banister won, in his Bird.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r1999#indextop

5/1/99 - Pennzoil Nats - #4 - 1.254 under.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r1999#indextop

5/14/99 - Southern Nats - L/SA class winner.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r1999#indextop

I find this one very interesting. Dean Ribeiro is #7, in a '77 Bird. Dave is #35, in a '78 Bird. And the Dilcher Bird is #3.

5/21/99 - Englishtown Nats - #35 - .901 under.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r1999#indextop

9/3/99 - US Nats - #67 - .931 under.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r1999#indextop

3/17/00 - Gators - #17 - 1.002 under.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2000#indextop

Lee Bannister won the Gators, again !

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2000#indextop

5/15/03 - Super Nats - #51 - .995 under.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2003#indextop

9/16/04 - Lucas Oil Nats - #34 - .926 under.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2004#indextop

9/16/05 - Toyo Tires Nats - #32 - .989 under.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2005#indextop

8/14/08 - Toyo Tires Nats - #36 - .876 under.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2008#indextop

6/12/09 - Super Nats - #70 - .803 under.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2009#indextop

oldskool · 08-20-2020, 07:54 AM

Looks like by late July of 2016 Dean Ribeiro was driving the Bird. Can't remember how long he raced it. I'll look it up. It was still the same color, back then, for a while. But, later he painted it what looked like a flat blue color, with decals mostly just on the back window.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop

Don't remember seeing it on a Q-list recently. Dean has raced lots of different cars. So, I don't know even who owns the car now. Maybe Dave will see this & give us some of the details, including current status of the car.

http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...68&postcount=6

The best ET I've seen that Dean turned was 12.06, which was .640 under.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop

On the 2018 lists I looked at, Dean was driving Chevy powered cars. So, I'll leave up to Dave whether he wants to update us on the Bird, or not.

oldskool · 08-20-2020, 12:07 PM

Paul Dilcher's name was on a lot of Q-lists I've seen lately. So, lets take a closer look.

This is the oldest list I can spot his Bird on. Don't know when he began racing it.

4/24/98 - Pennzoil Nats - #18 - .819 under.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r1998#indextop

9/18/98 - Keystone Nats - #6 - .985 under.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r1998#indextop

5/1/99 - Pennzoil Nats - #5 - 1.237 under.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r1999#indextop

5/21/99 - Etown Mopar Nats - #3 - 1.224 under.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r1999#indextop

9/17/99 - Keystone Nats - #13 - 1.103 under - L/SA class winner. Pontiac also won K/SA & M/SA.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r1999#indextop

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r1999#indextop

5/19/00 - Etown Super Nats - #9 - 1.015 under.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2000#indextop

9/14/00 - Keystone Nats - #13 - 1.019 under.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2000#indextop

4/27/01 - Thunder Valley Nats - #2 - 1.193 under.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2001#indextop

5/17/02 - Super Nats - #27 - 1.013 under.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2002#indextop

6/18/04 - Super Nats - #29 - 1.016 under.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2004#indextop

Paul's Bird is on many Q-lists, up thru 2018. Because of hp hits & index reductions, thru the years, some of the old Stocker combos get to the point where they can no longer run a sec under. For many cars, unless they can
be made quicker, it becomes hard to even run a half sec under. Some have the money to make the latest go-fast upgrades. Some don't. And, some just sell the old car & buy some other combo, that has a softer index. Or they quit racing all together. And I suppose a few switch over to bracket racing, although I'm well aware that MANY Class racers hate bracket racing & would rather quit racing, than run bracket.

I noticed that Paul made a Vegas race, back in 2013. Also saw him on a div 3 list. Don't have a clue as to how many different tracks he ran.

11/1/13 - Vegas 7-7 - #75 - .677 under

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCStory.asp?ID=280529

Dave Ribeiro · 08-21-2020, 12:37 AM

oldskool ,

Sorry , I haven't had time to respond with everything going on ???

1) My son Dean had bought Mark Yacavone's white 78 Firebird ... He then sold it to Dave Batta a couple of years later !!! I think Dave still has the car & is racing a 67-69 camaro now ..

2) I sold my Red Firebird to Dean in 2015 , when I bought Bob Michael's car
(77 maroon Leman's ) Which was Johnny Rodnite's old car !!! Bob, did the motor & painted the car which was White before ..

I have a bunch of National Records ( NHRA + IHRA ) , Class Wins and Q- sheets to send you in the next couple weeks !!!

Thanks, again for all your Pontiac support & be Safe ..

later, Dave

08-16-2020, 05:25 PM	#1
oldskool VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: The Land of Bayous, Boudin & Crawfish Posts: 1,668 Likes: 223 Liked 747 Times in 362 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Stockers Hey, 10.80, with a Stock legal Pontiac 350 ain't too shabby ! This is just an opinion question. Would the '69 #48 350HO heads, with their larger valves, make much difference in power output ?

08-16-2020, 05:35 PM	#2
Adam Strang Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Jericho,Vt Posts: 207 Likes: 93 Liked 96 Times in 23 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Stockers Hard to say with the bigger valve being closer to the side of the bore. __________________ Adam Strang 1018 STK Last edited by Adam Strang; 08-16-2020 at 06:13 PM.

08-16-2020, 11:14 PM	#3
oldskool VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: The Land of Bayous, Boudin & Crawfish Posts: 1,668 Likes: 223 Liked 747 Times in 362 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Stockers Breaker ! Breaker ! As was reported elsewhere on this site, Randi Lyn Shipp won a $10k check for winning a Stock/SS combo race ! The BIG check is made out to ROCKET SHIPP. http://classracer.com/classforum/sho...78&postcount=6 https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...&theater&ifg=1 Attached Thumbnails

08-19-2020, 07:51 PM	#4
oldskool VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: The Land of Bayous, Boudin & Crawfish Posts: 1,668 Likes: 223 Liked 747 Times in 362 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Stockers OK, the next '77 / '78 Bird I wanna look at is the Dave Ribeiro Bird. A pic I have shows lettering saying it was a nat record holder in '98 & '99. So, it should show up on the earliest DRC files. I'll take a look & begin posting links to some of those race results. 4/17/98 - Fram Nats - #8 - .779 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r1998#indextop On this list, just below Dave is John Rodnite, in a '77 Lemans. Not familiar with that name. Don Himes was not far behind, @ # 10, in his '77 GP. 4/24/98 - Pennzoil Nats - #7 - .946 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r1998#indextop 5/16/98 - Englishtown - #9 1.096 under. Carol Yacavone was #8. We'll look closer at that car, in coming posts. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r1998#indextop 5/24/98 - Maple Grove - #1 - 1.103 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r1998#indextop 8/15/98 - Englishtown div 1 - #7 - .940 under. Dean Ribeiro was #6, in a '77 Lemans. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r1998#indextop 9/18/98 - Keystone Nats - #12 - .942 under. Paul Dilcher was #6. We'll look closer at the Dilcher Bird, soon. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r1998#indextop 3/19/99 - Gators - #12 - 1.116 under - L/SA class winner. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r1999#indextop https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r1999#indextop By the way, this is a race that Lee Banister won, in his Bird. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r1999#indextop 5/1/99 - Pennzoil Nats - #4 - 1.254 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r1999#indextop 5/14/99 - Southern Nats - L/SA class winner. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r1999#indextop I find this one very interesting. Dean Ribeiro is #7, in a '77 Bird. Dave is #35, in a '78 Bird. And the Dilcher Bird is #3. 5/21/99 - Englishtown Nats - #35 - .901 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r1999#indextop 9/3/99 - US Nats - #67 - .931 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r1999#indextop 3/17/00 - Gators - #17 - 1.002 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2000#indextop Lee Bannister won the Gators, again ! https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2000#indextop 5/15/03 - Super Nats - #51 - .995 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2003#indextop 9/16/04 - Lucas Oil Nats - #34 - .926 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2004#indextop 9/16/05 - Toyo Tires Nats - #32 - .989 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2005#indextop 8/14/08 - Toyo Tires Nats - #36 - .876 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2008#indextop 6/12/09 - Super Nats - #70 - .803 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2009#indextop Attached Thumbnails Last edited by oldskool; 08-21-2020 at 07:46 AM.

08-20-2020, 07:54 AM	#5
oldskool VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: The Land of Bayous, Boudin & Crawfish Posts: 1,668 Likes: 223 Liked 747 Times in 362 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Stockers Looks like by late July of 2016 Dean Ribeiro was driving the Bird. Can't remember how long he raced it. I'll look it up. It was still the same color, back then, for a while. But, later he painted it what looked like a flat blue color, with decals mostly just on the back window. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop Don't remember seeing it on a Q-list recently. Dean has raced lots of different cars. So, I don't know even who owns the car now. Maybe Dave will see this & give us some of the details, including current status of the car. http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...68&postcount=6 The best ET I've seen that Dean turned was 12.06, which was .640 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop On the 2018 lists I looked at, Dean was driving Chevy powered cars. So, I'll leave up to Dave whether he wants to update us on the Bird, or not. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by oldskool; 08-20-2020 at 09:33 AM.

08-20-2020, 12:07 PM	#6
oldskool VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: The Land of Bayous, Boudin & Crawfish Posts: 1,668 Likes: 223 Liked 747 Times in 362 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Stockers Paul Dilcher's name was on a lot of Q-lists I've seen lately. So, lets take a closer look. This is the oldest list I can spot his Bird on. Don't know when he began racing it. 4/24/98 - Pennzoil Nats - #18 - .819 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r1998#indextop 9/18/98 - Keystone Nats - #6 - .985 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r1998#indextop 5/1/99 - Pennzoil Nats - #5 - 1.237 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r1999#indextop 5/21/99 - Etown Mopar Nats - #3 - 1.224 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r1999#indextop 9/17/99 - Keystone Nats - #13 - 1.103 under - L/SA class winner. Pontiac also won K/SA & M/SA. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r1999#indextop https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r1999#indextop 5/19/00 - Etown Super Nats - #9 - 1.015 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2000#indextop 9/14/00 - Keystone Nats - #13 - 1.019 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2000#indextop 4/27/01 - Thunder Valley Nats - #2 - 1.193 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2001#indextop 5/17/02 - Super Nats - #27 - 1.013 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2002#indextop 6/18/04 - Super Nats - #29 - 1.016 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2004#indextop Paul's Bird is on many Q-lists, up thru 2018. Because of hp hits & index reductions, thru the years, some of the old Stocker combos get to the point where they can no longer run a sec under. For many cars, unless they can be made quicker, it becomes hard to even run a half sec under. Some have the money to make the latest go-fast upgrades. Some don't. And, some just sell the old car & buy some other combo, that has a softer index. Or they quit racing all together. And I suppose a few switch over to bracket racing, although I'm well aware that MANY Class racers hate bracket racing & would rather quit racing, than run bracket. I noticed that Paul made a Vegas race, back in 2013. Also saw him on a div 3 list. Don't have a clue as to how many different tracks he ran. 11/1/13 - Vegas 7-7 - #75 - .677 under https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCStory.asp?ID=280529 Attached Thumbnails Last edited by oldskool; 08-21-2020 at 10:49 AM.

08-21-2020, 12:37 AM	#7
Dave Ribeiro VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Williamsburg, Va.---USA Posts: 1,827 Likes: 1,612 Liked 56 Times in 27 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Stockers oldskool , Sorry , I haven't had time to respond with everything going on ??? 1) My son Dean had bought Mark Yacavone's white 78 Firebird ... He then sold it to Dave Batta a couple of years later !!! I think Dave still has the car & is racing a 67-69 camaro now .. 2) I sold my Red Firebird to Dean in 2015 , when I bought Bob Michael's car (77 maroon Leman's ) Which was Johnny Rodnite's old car !!! Bob, did the motor & painted the car which was White before .. I have a bunch of National Records ( NHRA + IHRA ) , Class Wins and Q- sheets to send you in the next couple weeks !!! Thanks, again for all your Pontiac support & be Safe .. later, Dave __________________ Dave Ribeiro 1033 STK