Automatic Horsepower Factoring System

ss3845 · 04-01-2008, 07:53 PM

Kenny,

They must not have updated that page yet. Only the quickest run in the engine family counts and all runs count including class. Copy and paste this link to read it all.

http://www.nhra.com/content/sportsma...5919&zoneid=85

Jim McBean

Ken Miele · 04-01-2008, 10:14 PM

Jim C, its very confusing.

I have to agree its a tough system to work fairly for everyone and it does put a limit on making a combo fast. In your case there are way to many running your combo that are fast. To be honest its not much fun running someone that has that kind of handicap. Knowing they can't reach there full potential because they will get hammered with hp.

Jim M, thanks man.

I was wondering where that one went. Now which one are they using?

laura Parker · 04-01-2008, 10:25 PM

If this is now the case. Then the more popular the engine combo, the bigger screwing you will get. How the hell does that make any sense. Seems to me it's backwards. Jimmy I agree this is starting to make me sick also. I wish there was a know cure for this disease I have had for thirty years. Barry Parker

Jim Cimarolli · 04-01-2008, 10:57 PM

I think they should go back to an eight person committee on horsepower decisions. There has got to be human input to make final decisions in these matters. Maybe I'm just part of the old guard that is being ushered out, but to me qualifying and class eliminations is an important part of why I love this sport.
We need to be able to race our cars, thats why we work so hard to be here.

JIM BOUDREAU · 04-02-2008, 07:01 AM

Jim, I"m part of the old guard also. I agree with you 100%. We need to do something. The only fun we can have now is to run Top Stock and its going to rain this weekend at atco. Barry, can't wait to see you! Heard you have some new unleased horsepower!!! Gary was filling me on at Gators.

Robert Pare Racing · 04-02-2008, 07:38 AM

Maybe Evan Smith can chime in and help clarify some things...it's beyond confusing to me, and I feel like I have a decent grasp on things..

Bill Grubbs · 04-02-2008, 08:01 AM

Interesting, the cat is now out of the bag.

There are two AHFS's on the books. The original is on the pull down tab on the NHRA home page (linked here http://www.nhra.com/tech_specs/ahfs.html ).

The second is listed in the Lucas Oil Dec 2007 news archives (linked here http://www.nhra.com/content/sportsma...5919&zoneid=85 ).

I guess we get to choose which one we would like to abide by (TIC).

Bill

Richard Grant · 04-02-2008, 08:20 AM

Was the results of our "vote" ever published? If so I missed it. As has been stated why are the cars with higher numbers penalized? When a one car combo can totally control their fate. The more "they " mess with the system the more it gets screwed up! Welcome to the Lottery! It may be you that wins more horsepower next!

04-01-2008, 07:53 PM	#1
ss3845 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 53 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Automatic Horsepower Factoring System Kenny, They must not have updated that page yet. Only the quickest run in the engine family counts and all runs count including class. Copy and paste this link to read it all. http://www.nhra.com/content/sportsma...5919&zoneid=85 Jim McBean

04-01-2008, 10:14 PM	#2
Ken Miele Live Reporter Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 4,861 Likes: 456 Liked 16,554 Times in 1,522 Posts	Re: Automatic Horsepower Factoring System Jim C, its very confusing. I have to agree its a tough system to work fairly for everyone and it does put a limit on making a combo fast. In your case there are way to many running your combo that are fast. To be honest its not much fun running someone that has that kind of handicap. Knowing they can't reach there full potential because they will get hammered with hp. Jim M, thanks man. I was wondering where that one went. Now which one are they using?

04-01-2008, 10:25 PM	#3
laura Parker Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 14 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Automatic Horsepower Factoring System If this is now the case. Then the more popular the engine combo, the bigger screwing you will get. How the hell does that make any sense. Seems to me it's backwards. Jimmy I agree this is starting to make me sick also. I wish there was a know cure for this disease I have had for thirty years. Barry Parker

04-01-2008, 10:57 PM	#4
Jim Cimarolli Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Sulphur Springs Texas Posts: 743 Likes: 146 Liked 166 Times in 46 Posts	Re: Automatic Horsepower Factoring System I think they should go back to an eight person committee on horsepower decisions. There has got to be human input to make final decisions in these matters. Maybe I'm just part of the old guard that is being ushered out, but to me qualifying and class eliminations is an important part of why I love this sport. We need to be able to race our cars, thats why we work so hard to be here.

04-02-2008, 07:01 AM	#5
JIM BOUDREAU Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 21 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Automatic Horsepower Factoring System Jim, I"m part of the old guard also. I agree with you 100%. We need to do something. The only fun we can have now is to run Top Stock and its going to rain this weekend at atco. Barry, can't wait to see you! Heard you have some new unleased horsepower!!! Gary was filling me on at Gators.

04-02-2008, 07:38 AM	#6
Robert Pare Racing Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Mother Earth Posts: 265 Likes: 0 Liked 2 Times in 1 Post	Re: Automatic Horsepower Factoring System Maybe Evan Smith can chime in and help clarify some things...it's beyond confusing to me, and I feel like I have a decent grasp on things.. __________________ Rapare-Racing.com

04-02-2008, 08:01 AM	#7
Bill Grubbs Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Magnolia, Texas Posts: 416 Likes: 3 Liked 564 Times in 66 Posts	Re: Automatic Horsepower Factoring System Interesting, the cat is now out of the bag. There are two AHFS's on the books. The original is on the pull down tab on the NHRA home page (linked here http://www.nhra.com/tech_specs/ahfs.html ). The second is listed in the Lucas Oil Dec 2007 news archives (linked here http://www.nhra.com/content/sportsma...5919&zoneid=85 ). I guess we get to choose which one we would like to abide by (TIC). Bill

04-02-2008, 08:20 AM	#8
Richard Grant Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: West Monroe, La. Posts: 301 Likes: 9 Liked 13 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Automatic Horsepower Factoring System Was the results of our "vote" ever published? If so I missed it. As has been stated why are the cars with higher numbers penalized? When a one car combo can totally control their fate. The more "they " mess with the system the more it gets screwed up! Welcome to the Lottery! It may be you that wins more horsepower next! __________________ Richard Grant 4988 STK