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09-19-2021, 04:21 AM
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Re: Project - NHRA Stock and S/S results 61-68
Re the Douglas Pontiac....318 or 348hp?
.I’m going to review 67 shortly...updated engine specs for the table. Last edited by Rat Patrol; 09-19-2021 at 05:42 AM. |
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09-19-2021, 09:56 AM
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Re: Project - NHRA Stock and S/S results 61-68
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1960 Custom Safari wagon 4dr 6pass w hydramatic: 4458/318=14.02 I dont know if its a Catalina or Custom but wagon weights nearly the same. |
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09-19-2021, 06:43 PM
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Re: Project - NHRA Stock and S/S results 61-68
DC - Ok, thx for the analysis on the LW Fairlanes ....I’ll have to re-write that section.
Re the Forys car - thx for the heads up...I’ll change it. Re the lists - No year model on mine fir 67 Winters.. Last edited by Rat Patrol; 09-19-2021 at 06:45 PM. |
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09-19-2021, 07:27 PM
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Re: Project - NHRA Stock and S/S results 61-68
One thing Im not clear on - in 66 did these R code cars run in A/Stock or B/Stock with a steel hood?
Couple of points on. the Fairlanes - The articles I have says - there were 57 , (1966) and 229 1967 - there were 11 67 W code with scoops - some delete ‘options’ like sound deadener https://www.hemmings.com/stories/art...irlane-500-427 https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0111-10...e-lightweight/ Claims of 11 W Codes in this link- http://www.forristalls.com/1967%2042..._Fairlane.html This link confirms 67 W Codes. https://www.hemmings.com/stories/art...lane-xl500-427 Last edited by Rat Patrol; 09-19-2021 at 07:49 PM. |
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09-20-2021, 12:25 AM
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As far as running A/S=7.00 class in 1966, I think the car would have to run a steel hood to run stock class, and then as a 4bbl car, I get a W/P=8.29 which is not ideal for the class, but way too light for B/S=8.70 class. I'm not sure that combo would have been allowed to run in 1966 at a national NHRA meet, because in 1966, they were all built with glass hoods. Still, that 427-4v Medium Riser made a whole lot more than 410hp so locally would have no trouble winning A/S=7.00 class even with a mid-pack W/P=8.29 like that. Remember that in 1966 ONLY, A/S cars got to run any cam, any intake, which is why the normally overrated 327/350hp L79 of Grump was so competitive - swap intakes & cams in that L79 & with fenderwell headers, you're in almost 500hp gross territory. The 427 Ford was similar. Its intake was pretty good already, but there was a better one (the sidewinder), and much hotter cams, and the engine would take the revs. So I can see why, IF ALLOWED TO RUN, the steel hood 4bbl Fairlane, unfactored at 410hp, would have had a field day in A/S=7.00 with 1966 rules, making well over 500hp gross. Yes, I had down 20 W-codes for 1967, looks like 11 is a newer number. Some folks really nit-pick that stuff (11 vs 20) but for me it's just "a few". I'm not so sure about the glass hoods though. I SEE all the glass hoods in the pictures, but almost everybody added a glass hood to run in SuperStock because once it was NHRA legal, the cold air gave the car a power edge. But its my understanding that all the 67 Fairlanes were factory with steel hoods. That may be what the Ed Terry SNAFU was about - Ford probably wrote a letter (delivered too late) saying "the glass hood was available" but as I've heard it they werent built that way. In fact, the 1968 NHRA class guide lists ONLY 3 options to run: * 4bbl, steel hood * 8bbl, steel hood * 8bbl, glass hood No listing for a 4bbl glass hood in RACE YEAR 1968, but I've read guys say they ran a 4bbl glass hood car in Race Year 1967. This could have gone into early 1968 race year, again a story I'm still sorting out. The last article gets pretty fast & loose with history, still a good story though. Well, I'm glad a few of us still care! |
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09-20-2021, 12:30 AM
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Re: Project - NHRA Stock and S/S results 61-68
I have pictures if Tom Schumacher running his W Code Hardtop with a steel hood in A/Stock....but that may have been 67.
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09-20-2021, 12:52 AM
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In 1969 he went to a 2-door post car. That ran a flat hood and a 427-4bbl, and unfactored at 410hp, came in bang-on the B/S=8.00 class break for 1969. Quite a few wins for that car since at 410hp it was still way underrated, even though the generous rules of 1966 didnt apply any more. I forgot it's just morning way over there where you are, right? One of our cats already went to bed here. |
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