Question for you stock & super stock racers - Page 2

63corvette · 04-10-2008, 09:32 AM

I can not agree that Stock and Super Stock are the main entry payers.
Just take a look at the entry numbers from any of the Division or National Events and you will find there are many more Super Comp and Super Gas entries. Facts are Facts.
I do agree that the Top Sportsman and Top Dragsters entries should not get special treatment. You are right there are no National Champions and are just fast bracket cars competing. I really do not think they should get special parking with a special spot that may not even be filled when none of them show up for the race.
At the Division 5 races last year the Top Sportsman and Top Dragsters had reserved pit spots. Usually 20 to 30 prime pit spots were saved for them. I witnessed the fact that usually no more than 20 of those spots were used. The other prime spots sat empty with spectators parking in them at some of the events. That did not leave a very good feeling for the 2 categories with the other sportsman racers. I know some of the people running Top Sportsman and Top Dragster and they feel they are entitled to a better pit spot if they have a fast car. Some say they need it because their car is low to the ground and need a good flat spot. That may be true but, special treatment for some classes just causes discontent in the others.
Just My 2 Cents

Michael Beard · 04-10-2008, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by LNorton

This is a big reason why we run IHRA events when we run division races. We can leave early on Saturday morning, sometimes get to race twice over the weekend, and be back on Sunday night. Never have to take off a Friday enless you really want to.

Yeah, but the car counts aren't as high in IHRA, so why would you want to race with them? Wouldn't you rather take an extra day off of work, run one less race, pay a higher entry fee, and get shorter black & white coverage in the magazine? And you still have to deal with T/S and T/D cars, not to mention crate motors and SS/Production cars, even if they don't have Alky and Comp cars. I was even parked next to a T/S car in the back 40 at Mooresville, and there were Super Stock cars parked up front near the staging lanes. What gives?

Dick Butler · 04-10-2008, 11:27 AM

63 corvette, I agree 100% All S and SS and S/G and S/C and S/St are based on entry payers for income.It always is that way. It seems for lots of reasons attracting entries meets the financial needs of the event more efficiently than advertising for spectators, again for many reasons. I feel there is room to improve this but it takes change and hard work and an open mind on the part of everyone. There are new car lovers born every minute and we need to reshape our sport to some extent to appeal to them TODAY like it did when we got started...

Michael Beard · 04-10-2008, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 1664SSJA

With THAT crappy treatment, along with being able to run Nationals without going to Divisionals, I don't know what ANYONE would want to race IHRA for when you can go to any NHRA race and get treated like a king.

YEAH. The biggest problem with IHRA races is that it doesn't say "NHRA" on them.

Been there, raced them, took the extra day or two off work to do it.

Mark Schmidt · 04-10-2008, 04:08 PM

I run SC and will likely do some TD this year...my reason? Tired of running at night just before the gates close. If I was racing for the $$ I would bracket race a lot more. I don't really care for throttle stops so TD is at least an option. I don't care where I pit, as long as it's not in a lake at National Trail. As far as changes go, I would like to see Thu-Sun Division races that are combined to have 2 events in one weekend. Gas prices are killing all of us.

Food for thought...So the big $$$ business deal didn't work out. Rumor has it that Bruton Smith is interested. If that happens many people believe that NHRA national events will be professionals only. He believes in a class system similar to NASCAR, where the Nationwide series is to develop future pros. It is possible that another series (IHRA perhaps) would be the sportsman series. Wally would have never let his beloved sportsman racers down, but Wally's gone and things change. We all knew what we were getting into when we decided to build nice cars and go NHRA racing. Although it is costly and eats vacation time I still enjoy it a lot.

Just my $.02

04-10-2008, 09:32 AM	#11
63corvette Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Canyon, Tx Posts: 551 Likes: 127 Liked 353 Times in 102 Posts	Re: Question for you stock & super stock racers I can not agree that Stock and Super Stock are the main entry payers. Just take a look at the entry numbers from any of the Division or National Events and you will find there are many more Super Comp and Super Gas entries. Facts are Facts. I do agree that the Top Sportsman and Top Dragsters entries should not get special treatment. You are right there are no National Champions and are just fast bracket cars competing. I really do not think they should get special parking with a special spot that may not even be filled when none of them show up for the race. At the Division 5 races last year the Top Sportsman and Top Dragsters had reserved pit spots. Usually 20 to 30 prime pit spots were saved for them. I witnessed the fact that usually no more than 20 of those spots were used. The other prime spots sat empty with spectators parking in them at some of the events. That did not leave a very good feeling for the 2 categories with the other sportsman racers. I know some of the people running Top Sportsman and Top Dragster and they feel they are entitled to a better pit spot if they have a fast car. Some say they need it because their car is low to the ground and need a good flat spot. That may be true but, special treatment for some classes just causes discontent in the others. Just My 2 Cents

04-10-2008, 11:27 AM	#13
Dick Butler VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Richmond Indiana Posts: 1,196 Likes: 5 Liked 32 Times in 19 Posts	Re: Question for you stock & super stock racers 63 corvette, I agree 100% All S and SS and S/G and S/C and S/St are based on entry payers for income.It always is that way. It seems for lots of reasons attracting entries meets the financial needs of the event more efficiently than advertising for spectators, again for many reasons. I feel there is room to improve this but it takes change and hard work and an open mind on the part of everyone. There are new car lovers born every minute and we need to reshape our sport to some extent to appeal to them TODAY like it did when we got started...

04-10-2008, 04:08 PM	#15
Mark Schmidt Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 273 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Question for you stock & super stock racers I run SC and will likely do some TD this year...my reason? Tired of running at night just before the gates close. If I was racing for the $$ I would bracket race a lot more. I don't really care for throttle stops so TD is at least an option. I don't care where I pit, as long as it's not in a lake at National Trail. As far as changes go, I would like to see Thu-Sun Division races that are combined to have 2 events in one weekend. Gas prices are killing all of us. Food for thought...So the big $$$ business deal didn't work out. Rumor has it that Bruton Smith is interested. If that happens many people believe that NHRA national events will be professionals only. He believes in a class system similar to NASCAR, where the Nationwide series is to develop future pros. It is possible that another series (IHRA perhaps) would be the sportsman series. Wally would have never let his beloved sportsman racers down, but Wally's gone and things change. We all knew what we were getting into when we decided to build nice cars and go NHRA racing. Although it is costly and eats vacation time I still enjoy it a lot. Just my $.02 __________________ MDS Motorsports