Not for Nuthin' But Close!

Billy Nees · 06-27-2022, 08:40 AM

I finally got my "tuner" to give me some time out of his busy schedule to go T&Ting Saturday.
We haven't done any tuning since the middle of last year and I've changed fuels and moved the cams since then. It was easy back in the old-days when I could just grab my timing light and carb box and have at it but my "tuner" won't let me near the laptop or even look over his shoulder while he's using it for that matter.
At any rate, it turned out to be a very good day and by changing fuel and timing (taking out both) and the "timing" of the 1-2 shift we managed to find a solid tenth! And .03 of it was in 60'! Not bad for a 95*/ 3400 ft. d.a. day at "The Beav".

tscheerer · 07-05-2022, 12:04 PM

This thread makes me want to revive my 94 Grand Am that last ran in C/FS back in 2006. Bought the car new and drove it several years, then converted it into a race car. Built headers for the 3.1l V6, had a cam made and trans reworked, even researched and found the loosest OEM converter for it and rewired the 4T60E trans wiring to control shifting. The one problem I couldn't get past was it's an OBD1.5 car and there were no options to modify the PCM that I could figure out, so it was running OEM tune and 5500 fuel cutoff that held it back. It ran .050 under most of the time before I started racing something else and parked it. After 5 years sitting, put it back on the street for my daughter to drive when she was 16. Parked it again when she got done, and it's been sitting 3 years. Might be time to put it back on the track.

Billy Nees · 07-05-2022, 12:40 PM

OBD1 can be a problem. I played with some mid-80s Sunbirds some years ago. I could get them to go fast but not consistently.
I would be looking for an older aftermarket unit that some Racer has sitting on a shelf.

RNNChrisbarnes · 09-29-2022, 08:12 PM

Any updates on this project?

Billy Nees · 09-30-2022, 08:38 AM

Nothing new to report. I've just been locally bracket racing the car. Besides being a fine little Stocker, it's a very good bracket car. The driver still needs some work though.

Dwight Southerland · 10-02-2022, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Billy Nees

The driver still needs some work though.

How long does it take to "fix" a driver?!? Seems you've been working on that for half a century!

Frank Castros · 10-02-2022, 05:32 PM

What year was it that Billy Nees was the Land of NED Stock Eliminator Champion?

06-27-2022, 08:40 AM	#1
Billy Nees VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: On a hilltop in Pa. Posts: 4,488 Likes: 3,589 Liked 7,690 Times in 1,733 Posts	Re: Not for Nuthin' But Close! I finally got my "tuner" to give me some time out of his busy schedule to go T&Ting Saturday. We haven't done any tuning since the middle of last year and I've changed fuels and moved the cams since then. It was easy back in the old-days when I could just grab my timing light and carb box and have at it but my "tuner" won't let me near the laptop or even look over his shoulder while he's using it for that matter. At any rate, it turned out to be a very good day and by changing fuel and timing (taking out both) and the "timing" of the 1-2 shift we managed to find a solid tenth! And .03 of it was in 60'! Not bad for a 95*/ 3400 ft. d.a. day at "The Beav". __________________ Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS I'm not spending 100K to win 2K

07-05-2022, 12:04 PM	#2
tscheerer Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: kansas city Posts: 10 Likes: 0 Liked 17 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Not for Nuthin' But Close! This thread makes me want to revive my 94 Grand Am that last ran in C/FS back in 2006. Bought the car new and drove it several years, then converted it into a race car. Built headers for the 3.1l V6, had a cam made and trans reworked, even researched and found the loosest OEM converter for it and rewired the 4T60E trans wiring to control shifting. The one problem I couldn't get past was it's an OBD1.5 car and there were no options to modify the PCM that I could figure out, so it was running OEM tune and 5500 fuel cutoff that held it back. It ran .050 under most of the time before I started racing something else and parked it. After 5 years sitting, put it back on the street for my daughter to drive when she was 16. Parked it again when she got done, and it's been sitting 3 years. Might be time to put it back on the track. Attached Thumbnails

07-05-2022, 12:40 PM	#3
Billy Nees VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: On a hilltop in Pa. Posts: 4,488 Likes: 3,589 Liked 7,690 Times in 1,733 Posts	Re: Not for Nuthin' But Close! OBD1 can be a problem. I played with some mid-80s Sunbirds some years ago. I could get them to go fast but not consistently. I would be looking for an older aftermarket unit that some Racer has sitting on a shelf. __________________ Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS I'm not spending 100K to win 2K

09-29-2022, 08:12 PM	#4
RNNChrisbarnes Member Join Date: Dec 2019 Posts: 145 Likes: 1 Liked 192 Times in 44 Posts	Re: Not for Nuthin' But Close! Any updates on this project? __________________ facebook.com/racersnewsnetwork

09-30-2022, 08:38 AM	#5
Billy Nees VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: On a hilltop in Pa. Posts: 4,488 Likes: 3,589 Liked 7,690 Times in 1,733 Posts	Re: Not for Nuthin' But Close! Nothing new to report. I've just been locally bracket racing the car. Besides being a fine little Stocker, it's a very good bracket car. The driver still needs some work though. __________________ Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS I'm not spending 100K to win 2K

10-02-2022, 05:32 PM	#7
Frank Castros VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The Lowcountry. Posts: 2,966 Likes: 2,573 Liked 2,716 Times in 956 Posts	Re: Not for Nuthin' But Close! What year was it that Billy Nees was the Land of NED Stock Eliminator Champion?