Spoiled Brats!

[SDT1DYI]

I'm not interested in racing NHRA National Events any longer. I will attend Divisonals and try to stay away from Regional Alcohol events but some are combined with Divisonals.
National events are just not fun and I'm tried of 7.00 AM to get ready for first out.
We all need to remember NHRA is in the entertainment business.
Stock/ Super is NOT the entertainment for majority of fans.
Stock /Super stock most likely has a shelf life at NHRA National Events. Yes they need us at Divisonals as we ARE (most of the time) the largest group of racers at the event.
NHRA is not going to get track owners to pay them to bring a Divisonal Event to their location if Racers don't show up . Look what happened at the Div 6 Mission Race in 2022. There's no Mission Divisonal race in 2023.
There's nothing wrong with NHRA, they run a business , it's their business they can run it anyway they want .
As Stock/Super Stock racers, if you don't like the way NHRA runs their business as it effects you, then I would suggest you try something different.
Get over the Wally thing, or wanting your car in ND or what ever your attachment to NHRA is, because it's ending at some point.
As I have said before on this forum , support your local Stock SS Assocation by GETTING involved. Not just showing up at a Association race , but in the building of a strong , well run organization for the future of Class Racing.
If there were 10 or 12 strong Assocations across the U.S with
5 to 6 well attended races annually , getting a Major Sponsor and secondary sponsors becomes a real possibility.
Association Racing is the future for Class Racing, like it or not.

Steve Teeter Stk/SS 620.

[MR DERBY CITY]

Let me remind everyone , without NHRA there will be NO local stock/super stock associations. You can’t race stock /superstock without the latest up to date horsepower factors. It will just be a bracket race without heads up runs and even now some local associations have dial ins when two cars in the same class meet in eliminations.

[Chip THELEGEND Johnson]

I've pretty much raced at all levels including local brackets, local associations, IHRA, NMCA, SUPER CHEVY, and NHRA. The good Lord has blessed me over the years and I've Won my share. That being said there is something about that Wally that keeps us coming back. Every Year I say I'm done. Gonna race local next year and every year my stupid self comes back again, now I do enjoy the National Events. It's like going to a car show but we get to race too and what do we get a WALLY. See yall at the Gators.
Great post Billy

[SDT1DYI]

Stk/SS Associations rules are decided on by its members. If they want heads up runs they have heads up runs. Many do not because they do not want to discourage slower cars from attending.
Yes a cars legal issue is challenging, but it's the same at a NHRA event today. There's no simple answer on verifying that a motor is legal . But certainly carburators, correct # on the heads and intakes is pretty straight forward to accomplish.
As to HP and classes, it's easier to use NHRA estblished numbers BUT it does not mean you can not modify and improve it with input from ALL the Class Association racers. Which I would add, we as Class Racers have very little input into currently under NHRA.
Class Associations only works with all the racers working together to make it what THEY want.
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and and over, expecting different results
Try something different...

Steve Teeter Stk/SS 620

[Carguy49]

There is no way to make everyone happy in this racing game. Association racing is a very viable option to help fill the needs of ALL the racers. Life alters our plans many times. We can't always attend all the events that we had planned to be at. Work and health are the biggest factors in altering our schedules, just a fact. I am retired - and in good health WOOHOO!!!!!!!!

Participation is the key to having success in ANY racing venue. That was a problem here in the Pacific Northwest as Steve Teeter and Larrry Merk did their very best to make the 1st season of NWCRA a true success. I believe we needed 32 cars at each event and the most we had was 26?? One of our racers won 2 races - How happy was he with $4000 in his pocket.

I had a great time helping them at each race and the racers I talked to said it was a lot of fun. Let's get out there and have fun racing and support the races that fit your needs. I will be at divisional races and association races as time allows. Like I said before - - association racing is a very viable option to fill your racing needs.

[Larry Merk]

Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY

Let me remind everyone , without NHRA there will be NO local stock/super stock associations. You can’t race stock /superstock without the latest up to date horsepower factors. It will just be a bracket race without heads up runs and even now some local associations have dial ins when two cars in the same class meet in eliminations.

MJ,

We'll all agree that The NHRA rules are the basis for Stock and Super Stock racing. But unless NHRA just drops those classes, association races are a viable alternative.

Everyone on this forum has seen the trends: higher entry fees and lower quotas for national events. What happens next year when the quota drops to 40 and entry fees go up to $400, and the first entry to national events starts at 10 grade points? And then a change to a 30 car quota (we know they can't do math so a 32 car field will not happen)? They have to make room on the schedule for FX cars this year and in the not too distant future electric cars. Tick tock.

The Northwest Class Racer Association put on 3 race weekends in 2022 with 5 races. I talked to every single racer and the universal response I got was "it was the most fun I've had racing in a long time." Association races may not be perfect, but they are a very viable and fun alternative.

[Larry Hill]

When and if the heads-up ever goes away so will we. I want to run all the A/SA and B/SA heads-up. If I win the round I’m happy and if I loose I now have a roadmap on where I need improvement. For me it’s a win win situation.

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Larry Hill

When and if the heads-up ever goes away so will we. I want to run all the A/SA and B/SA heads-up. If I win the round I’m happy and if I loose I now have a roadmap on where I need improvement. For me it’s a win win situation.

Just a couple of things there Buddy, if you have a "heads-up" run and both participants aren't taken apart and certified as legal then isn't it just a bracket race anyway? M.J., please take note.

You need a Neon! Lots of room for improvement and you can draw your own roadmap!

[MR DERBY CITY]

Originally Posted by Larry Merk

MJ,

We'll all agree that The NHRA rules are the basis for Stock and Super Stock racing. But unless NHRA just drops those classes, association races are a viable alternative.
Association races may not be perfect, but they are a very viable and fun ualternative.

I totally agree. I applaud your dedication to the NW class racers. My concern is down the road If NHRA does indeed eliminate stock /superstock …

[Frank Castros]

Wally Parks and Walt Disney had much in common, they were genius creative pioneers. and if they were still with us their creations would not be in such a disorder.