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Old 01-14-2023, 06:15 PM   #61
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I don't post a whole lot, I've been class racing for 16 years and I'm having a blast with my all home built 2bbl Comet, I bracket race every weekend Bremerton since the 80s 1/8th mile, they let us run double classes with 1st round loss buy backs, possible winnings for every weekend $3500 plus they a $1000 shootout 3x a season..added bonus they do 1 footbrake weekend race with buybacks $15k each day $30k for the weekend..plus 1/4 options at Pacific, woodburn and Yakima..
WOW! I'm jealous! My s#!t would fit right in! (no offense meant)
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Old 02-20-2023, 09:59 PM   #62
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After doing this with Ken for 3 years here is what we've learned it takes...

•It has to be at a facility that is reasonably close to everyone in the country.
-but the facility has to be flat and level for parking.
-and the facility has to be "fast".
-but the facility has to be easy to get to from the highway.

•It has to be a weekend that you can loop it with another race.
-but it can't be too close to other races because then it’s too many in a row
-and it can’t be too early in the season because no one is ready
-but then it can’t be too late because then everyone has encountered problems
-but then it can’t be in the middle because there’s too many races
-and it can’t be this weekend or that weekend because it’s my nephews bar mitzvah

•It has to be a weekend with a good forecast.
-but then it can’t be too hot because then it’s too hot
-and then it can’t have a 1% chance of rain because then people don’t want to sit in the rain
-but then it can’t have a head wind because then the cars go slow
-and then it can’t be too sunny because then it’s too hot

•It has to be a reasonable entry fee for reasonable pay.
-but then it can’t cost too much because a lot of racers are on a budget
-and it can’t cost too little because then it’s not worth the wear and tear
(basically, it needs to be $15 to enter and $15,000 to win)

•It has to be on the weekend because people can’t take off work.
-but then it can’t start Friday because people have work
-and then it can’t start early Saturday because people don’t want to drive through the night Friday after work to get there
-but then it can’t end late Sunday because people have work Monday

With all due respect and no offense, THERE IS NOTHING ANYONE CAN DO TO PLEASE THE STK/SS COMMUNITY. You all deserve NHRA and the **** they put you through.
$350 or $200 to enter
$100 for your wife
3–4-day long events
1 race
BUT A WALLY!

See "ya'll" at Gainesville!
AZ S/SS Double Header combo this past weekend...
20 cars ,Saturday, 16 Sunday...Trophies, package awards, cash on the barrel head...Good , tight racing...and that's all we can get for a turnout?
Pathetic, in my opinion..
I talked to the Hawk Brothers before they did their first race. I told them AZ would be an uphill battle all the way. You'll get your 12-13 dedicated supporters, your few who can make some of the races, and some who you'll never see.

Okay, so let's set aside AZ racers for a moment. Tucson is not real close to much of anything else. SoCal about 400 mi. Vegas? About the same.
But here's the thing..There will be 150 or so S/SS cars a hundred miles up the road by tomorrow.
So, if they want to put all their eggs in one basket, in pursuit of the Wally, all well and good. But if NHRA Sportsman ever goes away, some of these independent races won't be around. I can tell you that for a fact.
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Old 02-20-2023, 10:22 PM   #63
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a track, do you think the tock racers in california could get a combo or series at bakersfieild?
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Old 02-20-2023, 10:53 PM   #64
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The best bet is a timely race at St. Louis before or after Indy. Don’t bother going to Earlville after Indy it’s a skating rink.
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Old 02-20-2023, 11:57 PM   #65
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We would try to attend all out West!
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Old 02-21-2023, 01:02 AM   #66
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The best bet is a timely race at St. Louis before or after Indy. Don’t bother going to Earlville after Indy it’s a skating rink.
Larry, I understand that you had some struggles the last time you came to Earlville and was sorry to hear that you didn't have a good experience. As a Canadian ice hockey player who paid my way through college as a referee, I've been on more than my fair share of ice rinks.

Granted the groove at Earlville is more narrow than at some other tracks and I won't speak for the 100+ Stk/SS racers that routinely attend Midwest Class Racer events 2-3 times are year at Tri-State Raceway, but most of us have figured out how to make our cars work at this track.

Now I don't know him, but Tim McAmis doesn't live too far from the track.
He has already created his Chassis Master App, but I'd be happy to call him and see if he would come and do a tutorial for anyone needing some help hooking up.

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Old 02-21-2023, 07:58 AM   #67
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Dad and I would build the neighborhood ice rink in our backyard. Some times we would be skating on it before thanksgiving. We had a flood light on each end and chicken wire over the windows. My dad would repair the broken sticks, the blade. Dad would sharpen skates for all that came over to play. Spent a lot of money on friction tape. My idol was Gordy Howe and the NHL had six teams, Detroit, Chicago, Boston, New York, Toronto and the Canadians. I’m no expert on skating rinks but have been around them enough to have an educated opinion.
I payed my way through school playing basketball.

Racing gives me a place to still be competitive. Bottom line is we will support races if and when we can. For me Top Stock was great fun.

Patsy really enjoyed the video almost laughed enough to have tears in her eyes.
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Old 02-21-2023, 09:50 AM   #68
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I think if it were NHRA backed like the Sportsnationals are is what it really takes. We need that validation apparently. I think
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Old 02-21-2023, 11:15 AM   #69
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I think if it were NHRA backed like the Sportsnationals are is what it really takes. We need that validation apparently. I think
hint hint-------------------------------------it's the Wally-------------------------------------------
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Old 02-21-2023, 01:28 PM   #70
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Fletcher's comments are right. Everything else said afterwards is the same old same old. The same % 0f bracket racers complain and make up excuses just as Stk/S/S racers do. Bracket racers have a bigger pool of racers to pull from and can survive if the complainers stay home. You guys can't do that. At least that's the way it appears.
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