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Old 10-31-2023, 04:11 PM   #1
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Throughout this entire now 2 year long build, there's one thing that this car has been missing. Even though the thread is called "Not for Nuthin'...", that didn't quite fit the car as a name. After some deep thought, Billy seems to have come up with a quite clever identity for the little brown car that could. I was asked to post pictures, so here it is, "Brilliant Disguise"
do you know if billy changed the transmission of the gears to get a lower 1st gear
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Old 10-31-2023, 05:46 PM   #2
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do you know if billy changed the transmission of the gears to get a lower 1st gear
The car just so happened to have the "best" final drive you can get in a 4t40e transaxle. I think its 3.63. The 4t40e in the car already has a 2.96 first gear, so apart from going to a 5 speed, there was no real room for improvement there.
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Old 10-31-2023, 05:51 PM   #3
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The car just so happened to have the "best" final drive you can get in a 4t40e transaxle. I think its 3.63. The 4t40e in the car already has a 2.96 first gear, so apart from going to a 5 speed, there was no real room for improvement there.

i thought there was a 3.91 ration but i could be wrong
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Old 10-31-2023, 06:15 PM   #4
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i thought there was a 3.91 ration but I could be wrong
Now that I think about it, you're correct. And I think this car just so happened to come with the 3.91 final drive. But I don't remember exactly. The original window sticker is in the glove box. More than likely it would say what the car has.
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Old 10-31-2023, 08:24 PM   #5
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Now that I think about it, you're correct. And I think this car just so happened to come with the 3.91 final drive. But I don't remember exactly. The original window sticker is in the glove box. More than likely it would say what the car has.
if you do not mind i may ask about tuning one of there with the hp setup
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if you do not mind i may ask about tuning one of there with the hp setup
Feel free to PM me with any questions you have.
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Old 11-02-2023, 11:37 PM   #7
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Have you thought of doing solid lifters? Our dirt motors were sensitive to oil weight, always felt it was lifter collapse. By tuning down the oil pressure mite be worth some power. Tom
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Now that I think about it, you're correct. And I think this car just so happened to come with the 3.91 final drive. But I don't remember exactly. The original window sticker is in the glove box. More than likely it would say what the car has.
is the front wheels now 13" and did that require the calipers to be modified?
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Old 11-03-2023, 09:19 AM   #9
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is the front wheels now 13" and did that require the calipers to be modified?
Ummmmm, they may have been "massaged" a little bit.
I'm going to be trying a pair of 22x8-15 M/T slicks (very old and NLA) on it this weekend because my young associate is giving me a "hard time" as I'm constantly going red in the car because of the really short (19.5 Hoosier NLA) slick. I don't like the idea of doing things that may slow the car down but as my associate has (rather sternly) told me, "Ya can win the race just running the index. Ya can't win anything going red!"

There's a tire company in Indiana Pa. called American Racer Tires that makes road-racing and circle-track tires and makes some short slicks. I have to take some time and go check them out as none of the drag racing tire manufacturers make any really short stuff anymore.
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Ummmmm, they may have been "massaged" a little bit.
I'm going to be trying a pair of 22x8-15 M/T slicks (very old and NLA) on it this weekend because my young associate is giving me a "hard time" as I'm constantly going red in the car because of the really short (19.5 Hoosier NLA) slick. I don't like the idea of doing things that may slow the car down but as my associate has (rather sternly) told me, "Ya can win the race just running the index. Ya can't win anything going red!"

There's a tire company in Indiana Pa. called American Racer Tires that makes road-racing and circle-track tires and makes some short slicks. I have to take some time and go check them out as none of the drag racing tire manufacturers make any really short stuff anymore.
thank you, this build has inspired me. i am currently looking for a Cav.
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