New shifter rule poll

[whompin_wedge]

Originally Posted by Travis Buth

I would be ok with the two steps getting taken away as well, at least for the Auto cars. I am fine with stick cars having a 2 step. Have the rules similar to sportsman class in that regard.

Agreed, take the 2 steps from autos as well!

Casey FJ

[Mike Taylor 3601]

Originally Posted by Adub464Q

I honestly do not care any way.

But I would truly like to see a sound argument against, other than saying it is not the way stock should be or has been over the years.

If that was the case, why were two steps allowed in the early 2000s? If you cannot footbrake your car, you should not be in stock.

The same logic from this thread could be applied to the two step argument but I do not hear anyone out hear beating the drum for disallowing two steps.

My logic is.... Pro Stock, Pro Mod TAD, TAFC all shift as result of driver function all performance based, non electronic classes, MY REASONING and PROPOSAL is why should Stock,Super Stock and Competition Eliminator be ANY different than the other perfomance based,non electronic classes..

.90 classes, Top Sportsman ,Top Dragster and Super Pro are electronic, bracket based classes let them use air/electric/co2 automated shifters

[JP1738]

I'm with you guys on 2-steps, no idea why autos have them. I do not use one and I'm honestly not sure why I would need one.

[L.Fite]

Originally Posted by Sam Murray

Well said Bill, I don't agree with it either. But you know what I want to level the playing field, a rear suspension like the new cars have!

How about cam and heads like the new cars!

Once down the rabbit hole...

[SDmopar]

It would seem that we have come along ways from Stock. The Genie is out of the bottle. If we go back to stock there should only be OEM components used. Exhaust manifolds, carbs, original springs and suspension components, shocks. There are combos that have complete aftermarket engines. So the whole automaticity shifting an automatic transmission seems to not really matter in my opinion. If we are all honest with ourselves there is something on all of our cars that is improved from stock. I?m not going to pretend I dont.

[j gardiner]

NOPE!

[James Findell]

After racing all 3 types of cars last year (4-speed, automatic & air-shifter) I discovered the shifter type doesn't play a role in whether I won a round or lost. Leaving on time and driving the finish line seem to be more crucial to winning, which I discovered I am not very good at anymore...

The same guys will win most rounds because they can repeat rounds if you gave them a tricycle.

My preferred car to race for a fun factor is my 4-speed.

As a mentor told my once after I asked him why he switched to a 4-speed, he stated "they won't let me run a 10-speed".

I want to win, but the fun factor is hard to beat.

If I am watching my daughter go down the track, I'll take the air shifter option.

The only advantage I see on utilizing an Air Shifter personally is having more time to find an opponent, which I believe is well within the realm of the high speed cars we are currently competing against who have them.

[DG]

Originally Posted by JP1738

I'm with you guys on 2-steps, no idea why autos have them. I do not use one and I'm honestly not sure why I would need one.

I am sure you would agree that to cut consistent reactions times while foot braking you need to have steady starting line rpms. With dual 750 carbs and vacuum secondaries, my car is not easy to hold a steady rpm while staging. The 2 step lets me leave consistently at the desired rpm. You may not need one, but other combinations do.

[Paul Precht]

Originally Posted by 340Cuda

Best shifter I have ever used...

Same here, when I'm staged, my right hand is on the wheel and left thumb on the second gear button, it's almost too easy.

[john ancona]

As one of many who are still left after fifty years starting with pure stock in my 68 Cobra Jet with a fully automatic transmission , and then a 1969 BBC Camaro again with a fully automatic transmission , along with other stock eliminator cars I have owned .As the years have gone by there been many changes to the rules ,some I agree with, some I do not ,I feel the big question is not how the car is shifted , today with all the technology the the newer car have compared to the cars of the sixty's , it's easy to understand why many want to up date the technology in the older race cars ,but hard to understand why many do not , the old statement one more change to the rules, and we will all be in super stock ,at this point in time I would hope that after the dozens of changes since pure stock we can move to a equal playing field that all benefit, and not worry about how the race car is shifted