New shifter rule poll

[MR DERBY CITY]

Disappointed with some of my fellow racers . So if YOU do not use a 2 step , then NO ONE needs to use one ?? C?mon guys, you all are better than that ….

[Adub464Q]

Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY

Disappointed with some of my fellow racers . So if YOU do not use a 2 step , then NO ONE needs to use one ?? C?mon guys, you all are better than that ?.

And you just made the point I was trying to prove.

If you choose to not use an air/e-shifter, does not mean that NO ONE should be able to use one?

The new air shifter rule does not require anyone to use one.

[Adub464Q]

Originally Posted by DG

I am sure you would agree that to cut consistent reactions times while foot braking you need to have steady starting line rpms. With dual 750 carbs and vacuum secondaries, my car is not easy to hold a steady rpm while staging. The 2 step lets me leave consistently at the desired rpm. You may not need one, but other combinations do.

Could the same logic be applied to the air shifter? The air shifter may allow some combinations to be more consistent, like the older combos to be more consistent with the newer combinations.

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by Adub464Q

Could the same logic be applied to the air shifter? The air shifter may allow some combinations to be more consistent, like the older combos to be more consistent with the newer combinations.

I get what you're saying. But we were able to predict the ET of the Camaro (69 427/425 AA/SA) within 0.01, or less, every pass, with a full manual valve body and a Quarter Stick 2 shifter. It was every bit as consistent with that as it was with an auto 1-2 shift valve body.

[L.Fite]

Originally Posted by Adub464Q

Could the same logic be applied to the air shifter? The air shifter may allow some combinations to be more consistent, like the older combos to be more consistent with the newer combinations.

I gar on tee...
If they pass that rule, every auto car in the lanes will have an air shifter...

[Bill Grubbs]

Originally Posted by Adub464Q

And you just made the point I was trying to prove.

If you choose to not use an air/e-shifter, does not mean that NO ONE should be able to use one?

The new air shifter rule does not require anyone to use one.

There is already a lack of new blood coming into the sport. The costs will continue to rise from astronomical, to unobtainium.

Austin where does it stop? I would like fuel injection, four-link rear, CNC ported heads, air shifter, turbo's, blowers, Comp styled pistons, and any other addition that another competitor may have. I'm sure there are the stick shift guys that would like to use an air shifted clutchless transmissions (contrary to another post ProMod's are using automated air shifters, I do not know about any of the other classes).

PS, I personally know of three racers that are using an E-shift in 60's and 70's cars that had non-electronic transmissions. easy to find in a non-invasive inspection.

The secondary question will be...When stock and superstock are combined will NHRA pay out for the second car a driver who routinely enters the two classes? or...will double entrees be allowed. Then in an effort to level the playing field, will other drivers be allowed to double enter a single car, or will there be buybacks.

Once again Austin...where will this DEI program to level the playing field stop?

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Bill Grubbs

There is already a lack of new blood coming into the sport. The costs will continue to rise from astronomical, to unobtainium.

Bill , If "Joe Racer" sees a perceived advantage for HIM, He'll have an automated shifter in a minute... "It's only money"

[Adub464Q]

Originally Posted by Bill Grubbs

There is already a lack of new blood coming into the sport. The costs will continue to rise from astronomical, to unobtainium.

Austin where does it stop? I would like fuel injection, four-link rear, CNC ported heads, air shifter, turbo's, blowers, Comp styled pistons, and any other addition that another competitor may have. I'm sure there are the stick shift guys that would like to use an air shifted clutchless transmissions (contrary to another post ProMod's are using automated air shifters, I do not know about any of the other classes).

PS, I personally know of three racers that are using an E-shift in 60's and 70's cars that had non-electronic transmissions. easy to find in a non-invasive inspection.

The secondary question will be...When stock and superstock are combined will NHRA pay out for the second car a driver who routinely enters the two classes? or...will double entrees be allowed. Then in an effort to level the playing field, will other drivers be allowed to double enter a single car, or will there be buybacks.

Once again Austin...where will this DEI program to level the playing field stop?

DEI?wow.

Flipping the question around you. If air shifters would result in an increase in participation, would you be in favor?

Speaking personally, I haven?t raced stock since 2021 due to racing other classes. However, there is still a stocker sitting in the shop. With an air shifter rule, I can put anyone in the stocker and have an ease of mind that they will handle the car the correct way. That?s speaking from a personal opinion.

NOTE: I am not on SRAC, or was in any way involved in the discussions with SRAC or NHRA.

[Bill Grubbs]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Bill , If "Joe Racer" sees a perceived advantage for HIM, He'll have an automated shifter in a minute... "It's only money"

Mark, Where will it end? CNC heads, is that the end? "It's only money"; Four-link srear suspensions? "It's only money";... etc.

I do not agree with a lot that has been allowed over the years. However, I have begrudgingly adapted...and will continue to do so. At this point in my life I have the means. However, in the late 90's I ate tuna fish and lunchmeat sandwiches for three weeks while TDY, just so I could buy a Hedworth Carb, and an autometer tachometer.

I figure I have another 10 years (15 on the outside) before I'm done. I would like to see a 10 year moratorium on performance enhancements and other DEI enhancements, or enhancements given out every ten years. with no enhancement given out during the interim period... but I am only dreaming.

Maybe NHRA could re-implement a rolling year's legalization of cars. Only cars that are 10, 15, 20, or 25 years old. That way the field would be level, as everyone would have a newer car with all the bells and whistles.








Last paragraph TIC, i do not want to give NHRA any ideas.

[SDmopar]

Originally Posted by L.Fite

I gar on tee...
If they pass that rule, every auto car in the lanes will have an air shifter...

It?s already a rule for 2026