New shifter rule poll

[Ellis V Buth]

Originally Posted by L.Fite

I gar on tee...
If they pass that rule, every auto car in the lanes will have an air shifter...

My Ranger won’t. Travis’ Mustang won’t.

We regularly run our bracket cars in pro, which allows air/electric, and they don’t. They also allow transbrakes and we typically footbrake (haven’t had Transbrake hooked up for 7 years now). Just because it’s available doesn’t mean we will all have it. I still footbrake the Mustang when I run it in stock and hope to do the same with the Ranger once we get it redone.

I’m not firm on whether I want them in the class or not. But I am firm that I want the class to actually speak up on the issue and do what is truly “wanted” and “in the best interest” of the class as a whole.

My .02 worth very little of course! I’m just a young pup in a slow car that’s totaled when I have to change the tires as someone once put it on here

[Mark Yacavone]

POLL Within a Poll

I figure we might as well all know exactly what we're talking about here..

Who is racing a car in Stock with an original electronically controlled transmission?

1, Billy Nees
next ....

[Mike Gray]

I don’t know what all the fuss is? With that damn bright shift light screaming at me to shift I’ll bet the difference with a rpm/timed air shifter is barely perceivable. Heck we leave the line on a bright light trying to get good reaction times, how much different is that than shifting on time from another bright light?

[west coast]

Originally Posted by Mike Gray

I don?t know what all the fuss is? With that damn bright shift light screaming at me to shift I?ll bet the difference with a rpm/timed air shifter is barely perceivable. Heck we leave the line on a bright light trying to get good reaction times, how much different is that than shifting on time from another bright light?

This is the best comment I have heard yet.

[Mike Pearson]

I read in the rule book last night the air and electric shifters will be permitted in stock eliminator in 2026. So it looks like it is happening. Auto shift is legal now if it is done internally as a function of the transmission Also legal if the transmission is shifted by the ECM. I guess they are doing it to even things up with the older cars that haven?t been allowed auto shift previously. Of course you do not have to make the switch if you don?t want to.

[Marc LaBrecque]

Originally Posted by Dave Casey

no to the proposed new rule.

If level playing field is what is wanted, then everyone should shift every gear.

Does that mean with or without a clutch ? Asking g for a friend ?

[Cglrcng]

Originally Posted by James Findell

After racing all 3 types of cars last year (4-speed, automatic & air-shifter) I discovered the shifter type doesn't play a role in whether I won a round or lost. Leaving on time and driving the finish line seem to be more crucial to winning, which I discovered I am not very good at anymore...

The same guys will win most rounds because they can repeat rounds if you gave them a tricycle.

My preferred car to race for a fun factor is my 4-speed.

As a mentor told my once after I asked him why he switched to a 4-speed, he stated "they won't let me run a 10-speed".

I want to win, but the fun factor is hard to beat.

If I am watching my daughter go down the track, I'll take the air shifter option.

The only advantage I see on utilizing an Air Shifter personally is having more time to find an opponent, which I believe is well within the realm of the high speed cars we are currently competing against who have them.

I am right there in front of you down track, really not that hard to find (the guy you are chasing and screaming down upon at twice plus the mile an hr...maybe now not as far out there, for the next 2 races still in D, but slowly getting a bit quicker...add me to the list that actually ?ants to shift the car manually a lot higher than is right now shifting, which is a bit more than it wad a few weeks ago when that 84' factory ecm/pm (with that rotten low gear safety at 4,800 rpm that shut off the only injector I have), finally came out and was boxed up for good I hope! I cannot wait to finally manually shift again, and see exactly how far under I can run under index. And if I can drop down a class and finally race it in it's natural DF/S at Pomona in 2026! Then will need to adjust the weight a bit up from bottom of DF/S (was .797 under last pass in Nov. 2023 there in D with that safety so maybe tickling the 1.30 danger Will Robinson point ,if I kept in EF/S?)

List me as a no vote on the air shifter as I could have an internal elect. Valve body w/ rpm or time activated box built (was quoted about 5 times the cost of an air shifter to do a 1 off for an A413 Transaxle by Tur;o Action 3 yrs ago). Let the older computer controlled EFI w/ non-Comp Trans cars use the air shifter option (but noooo, they will make us do the more expensive route). Change the phrase computer controlled car to comp.controlled transmission in the except portion of the rule and I can just add the air shifter to my B& M gate shifter cheaply. And then spend more time looking in my mirrors likeI do now on at much higher rpm shift points. As you all rocket and missle down on my rear end as usual. A 1 off electronic shifter pkg for an adapted A413 (that fits the existing rule), is in the 2K$ plus range.

At least at T.A. that already makes them for other cars (just not my combo yet). And I am a unicorn 🦄 of 1 not listed in their existing offerings. If you need an Air Shifter to hunt me down you have more issues than shifting.

I'll shift it thanks. And have fun doing it!

[Cglrcng]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

POLL Within a Poll

I figure we might as well all know exactly what we're talking about here..

Who is racing a car in Stock with an original electronically controlled transmission?

1, Billy Nees
next ....

Not me only elect. Item on it (my transaxle), is the reverse lockout switch.

[71" R/T]

Add me as a no.

[CarlaPittau]

I cannot vote as I race in Sweden, but we race by NHRA rules, so I will just offer my opinion if I may.

I love Super Stock, and it makes sense that their rules are not the same as ours in Stock. But why thin the difference between the two classes? Why should we wish to not even shift gear in our cars? Many use the governor already to shift 1st to 2nd, if you are so concerned, why not use the governor to shift 2nd to 3rd? Why robotise your car?

Isn't it boring if it's too easy?

Next it will be transbrake, then delay box, then we may well all move to Super Gas or do away with the driving altogether and just operate our cars out of a console on our laptops. Then we can sit in our motorhomes while we race. I am 66 and will race as long as I am able to get in the car. If you can get in the car, you can shift gears. If you cannot, you shouldn't get in the car at all.