Toyota Supra in Stock Eliminator (Poll)

L.Fite · 06-17-2025, 05:04 PM

So...
My beef isn't adding cars to the class...
I actually think it is a good thing...
But...
There are a lot of show room cars/combos not in the guide...

My personal opinion, and that's all it is, an opinion, not advocating any changes other than to approach things evenly and fairly...
I've always thought the COPOs, Drag Packs, etc. all with the blown, turbo charged, non corporate rear end, transmission, should have been placed in Super Stock...
I equate these with the Factory Stock stuff from back in the day I guess...

It wouldn't have been hard to put 12 bolt in the COPO, 9" in FOMOCO, Dana in Chrysler, etc. from the beginning...

Alas...
That ship sailed a long time ago...

It amazes me that the manufacturers and NHRA went through the trouble of building and getting these cars in the guide while ignoring the actual show room cars...
And yet GUMP has had to do all the leg work to get this car accepted...
Was there a concerted effort by the manufacturers to get these other paper cars done?
Or was there a group of racers that got together and did the leg work to get these cars built?

The 2008 and up rear rule was already there, and GUMP was able to justify the transmission, (circuitous as the logic may be)...
Didn't Ford and GM build an 8 or 10 speed trans for the Camaro and Mustang? (Did that project make it to production?)
How far a stretch is, any trans in any car?
So I don't see what all the heartburn is about...

As I said MY opinion is I think it is a better fit in Super Stock, just due to some of the rules I don't agree with, but there are other cars out there that are built using the same rules running in Stock...

GUMP spent a lot of time and resources to get this done...
It's a good looking car...
I applaud him for his efforts...
Wish him luck and hope to see it in person at the races.

As for me, I'm building an OLD car and will use whatever enhancements currently allowed, and any that pop up in the future...

GUMP · 06-17-2025, 05:28 PM

My understanding is that the FS cars came about when some "car guys" at the Big Three got together to do something cool. I'm amazed that they were able to convince the management to sign off on the programs.

A neat piece of trivia is that MPR did the concept car for all three. Mike is a friend of mine, so I made sure that he has a little DNA in the Supra too.

As far as the production cars go, there aren't many people left at the OEMs that understand what we do. The only way that I have found to get new combinations in the guide is to be polite and patient. The guys that have helped me didn't have to. They are just good people.

View Poll Results: Yay or Nay
This is a net good	85	44.97%
This is a net bad	51	26.98%
Don't care, I'm going to stay in my lane	53	28.04%
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06-17-2025, 05:04 PM	#1
L.Fite Senior Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 513 Likes: 545 Liked 494 Times in 241 Posts	Re: Toyota Supra in Stock Eliminator (Poll) So... My beef isn't adding cars to the class... I actually think it is a good thing... But... There are a lot of show room cars/combos not in the guide... My personal opinion, and that's all it is, an opinion, not advocating any changes other than to approach things evenly and fairly... I've always thought the COPOs, Drag Packs, etc. all with the blown, turbo charged, non corporate rear end, transmission, should have been placed in Super Stock... I equate these with the Factory Stock stuff from back in the day I guess... It wouldn't have been hard to put 12 bolt in the COPO, 9" in FOMOCO, Dana in Chrysler, etc. from the beginning... Alas... That ship sailed a long time ago... It amazes me that the manufacturers and NHRA went through the trouble of building and getting these cars in the guide while ignoring the actual show room cars... And yet GUMP has had to do all the leg work to get this car accepted... Was there a concerted effort by the manufacturers to get these other paper cars done? Or was there a group of racers that got together and did the leg work to get these cars built? The 2008 and up rear rule was already there, and GUMP was able to justify the transmission, (circuitous as the logic may be)... Didn't Ford and GM build an 8 or 10 speed trans for the Camaro and Mustang? (Did that project make it to production?) How far a stretch is, any trans in any car? So I don't see what all the heartburn is about... As I said MY opinion is I think it is a better fit in Super Stock, just due to some of the rules I don't agree with, but there are other cars out there that are built using the same rules running in Stock... GUMP spent a lot of time and resources to get this done... It's a good looking car... I applaud him for his efforts... Wish him luck and hope to see it in person at the races. As for me, I'm building an OLD car and will use whatever enhancements currently allowed, and any that pop up in the future...

06-17-2025, 05:28 PM	#2
GUMP VIP Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Shelby, NC Posts: 1,818 Likes: 2,159 Liked 2,339 Times in 550 Posts	Re: Toyota Supra in Stock Eliminator (Poll) My understanding is that the FS cars came about when some "car guys" at the Big Three got together to do something cool. I'm amazed that they were able to convince the management to sign off on the programs. A neat piece of trivia is that MPR did the concept car for all three. Mike is a friend of mine, so I made sure that he has a little DNA in the Supra too. As far as the production cars go, there aren't many people left at the OEMs that understand what we do. The only way that I have found to get new combinations in the guide is to be polite and patient. The guys that have helped me didn't have to. They are just good people. __________________ Daren Poole-Adams NHRA Stock/SS 2007