Solenoid Shifters

Racer 6x64 · 02-21-2016, 02:03 PM

Hello again

It's the new Stock Eliminator guy again. Is the electric 3 speed shiftnoid legal in stock??

Thanks

FireSale · 02-21-2016, 04:12 PM

Maybe if it's original parts on the trans. Here's the section from the 2016 rule book.

"Any gear change must occur as a result of an internal function of the
transmission or from direct action by the driver. (deleted stuff about converters)
Electronic rpm controls for the electric (internal or external to the
transmission) shifting of automatic transmissions permitted in
computer-controlled vehicles only. Otherwise, any gear change must
occur as a result of an internal function of the transmission or from
direct action by the driver. Pneumatic, hydraulic, electric, etc.
controls and shifters in all noncomputer-controlled electronic-fuel injected vehicles prohibited."

Note the Internal function of the trans part.

Dale

The Hawk · 02-21-2016, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racer 6x64

Hello again

It's the new Stock Eliminator guy again. Is the electric 3 speed shiftnoid legal in stock??

Thanks

Shifnoid, no.

btrc · 02-21-2016, 08:12 PM

If the car originally had a computer in it, like an EFI car, then it is supposedly legal.

Crew Chief · 02-22-2016, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by btrc

If the car originally had a computer in it, like an EFI car, then it is supposedly legal.

Wrong. Whether the car had a computer or not, only the driver can move the shifter from one gear to another. However the transmission can shift itself internally with the shifter staying in one position.

FireSale · 02-22-2016, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crew Chief

Wrong. Whether the car had a computer or not, only the driver can move the shifter from one gear to another. However the transmission can shift itself internally with the shifter staying in one position.

From post 2 and the 2016 rule book:

"Electronic rpm controls for the electric (internal or external to the
transmission) shifting of automatic transmissions permitted in
computer-controlled vehicles only. Otherwise, any gear change must occur as a result of an internal function of the transmission or from direct action by the driver."

The terms external, permitted, computer-controlled and otherwise (especially Otherwise), muddy this up. The poster needs to clarify this with a division tech.

Dale

btrc · 02-22-2016, 11:10 PM

Just a note that I did clarify it with my division tech director and he said it was ok.

dartman · 02-23-2016, 02:29 AM

Ford,chev and dodge all release electronic transmissions in 1993.so nothing before 1993 should have a Electric shifter in stock.

My 2 cents

Racer 6x64 · 02-23-2016, 03:04 PM

We finally heard back from our Division Tech director and solenoid shifters are ok in computer controlled cars.

Way too much to learn in this Stock racing.

Thanks guys

02-21-2016, 02:03 PM	#1
Racer 6x64 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 25 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Solenoid Shifters Hello again It's the new Stock Eliminator guy again. Is the electric 3 speed shiftnoid legal in stock?? Thanks __________________ C. P. 2015 Drag Pack Challenger FS/C

02-21-2016, 04:12 PM	#2
FireSale VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Lakewood Washington Posts: 1,407 Likes: 29 Liked 237 Times in 127 Posts	Re: Solenoid Shifters Maybe if it's original parts on the trans. Here's the section from the 2016 rule book. "Any gear change must occur as a result of an internal function of the transmission or from direct action by the driver. (deleted stuff about converters) Electronic rpm controls for the electric (internal or external to the transmission) shifting of automatic transmissions permitted in computer-controlled vehicles only. Otherwise, any gear change must occur as a result of an internal function of the transmission or from direct action by the driver. Pneumatic, hydraulic, electric, etc. controls and shifters in all noncomputer-controlled electronic-fuel injected vehicles prohibited." Note the Internal function of the trans part. Dale __________________ Dale Shearon 68 Mustang 6394

02-21-2016, 08:12 PM	#4
btrc Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 252 Likes: 272 Liked 84 Times in 42 Posts	Re: Solenoid Shifters If the car originally had a computer in it, like an EFI car, then it is supposedly legal. __________________ Bob Tilton 568 FS/H

02-22-2016, 11:10 PM	#7
btrc Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 252 Likes: 272 Liked 84 Times in 42 Posts	Re: Solenoid Shifters Just a note that I did clarify it with my division tech director and he said it was ok. __________________ Bob Tilton 568 FS/H

02-23-2016, 02:29 AM	#8
dartman Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: N.S. CANADA Posts: 498 Likes: 155 Liked 68 Times in 41 Posts	Re: Solenoid Shifters Ford,chev and dodge all release electronic transmissions in 1993.so nothing before 1993 should have a Electric shifter in stock. My 2 cents __________________ 1231 FS/D Drag Pak 1231 E/SA 71 Demon Kelly MacKay Last edited by dartman; 02-23-2016 at 02:31 AM.

02-23-2016, 03:04 PM	#9
Racer 6x64 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 25 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Solenoid Shifters We finally heard back from our Division Tech director and solenoid shifters are ok in computer controlled cars. Way too much to learn in this Stock racing. Thanks guys __________________ C. P. 2015 Drag Pack Challenger FS/C