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Chad Rhodes 11-20-2010 07:58 PM

Re: Drive By Wire
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton (Post 223405)
The throttle position has the least effect on the new cars. That from someone who knows.

I have no doubt you are correct on the naturally aspirated motors

Jeff Teuton 11-20-2010 08:02 PM

Re: Drive By Wire
 
All the Mopars have a 4bbl type throttle that is progressive lingage. Do the Fords have an oblong/round Throttle Body? They have effect, but not near the massive things most people think.

Owen S Quirion 11-20-2010 08:03 PM

Re: Drive By Wire
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton (Post 223405)
The throttle position has the least effect on the new cars. That from someone who knows.

Jeff, I thing we can both agree that when the throttle plates are closed the car is going to stop accelerating. That being said, a simple circuit including a dime store accelerometer, timer, reset button, and some High School Level programming you could have a car that you could call Michael Beard up to make you some vinyl letters for your dial-in. Those beautiful DP's and CJ's would be womp-wompin starting at the 1000 foot mark and nail their permanent dial in every time!!!! It would be so accurate that they could spend time waving to their friends at the finish line instead of driving the stripe!!

Ed Wright 11-20-2010 08:12 PM

Re: Drive By Wire
 
It's not what you guys seem to think. The OEM software does not have delays, nor any way to make it wop wop the throttle at the finish line. You would have to write your own operating system. No grade school kid is going to do that. There are opening rate tables to help control intake noise. You can make the throttle open less that 100% with the pedal all the way down but that is about it. You can not alter it going down the track. Some of this is as far out as the fuel injection storys going around.

Owen S Quirion 11-20-2010 08:18 PM

Re: Drive By Wire
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 223417)
It's not what you guys seem to think. The OEM software does not have delays, nor any way to make it wop wop the throttle at the finish line. You would have to write your own operating system. No grade school kid is going to do that. There are opening rate tables to help control intake noise. You can make the throttle open less that 100% with the pedal all the way down but that is about it. You can not alter it going down the track. Some of this is as far out as the fuel injection storys going around.

You are kidding right Ed? I am talking about electronics store hardware in line between the throttle control motor and the ECM, and don't underestimate the programming skills of kids these days. Too simple.

bigshow2966 11-20-2010 09:11 PM

Re: Drive By Wire
 
Anyone else remember the infamous 'Willy Raymond' thread a few years ago? He was claiming all kinds of crap that was being done and/or could be done with electronics/GPS/etc.. Was going to build a car and show it to the NHRA to get his competiton privileges back.

Thread was like 100+ pages and well over a million hits.

And it was all pure bullshirt.

Bret Kepner 11-20-2010 09:35 PM

Re: Drive By Wire
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Owen S Quirion (Post 223421)
...and don't underestimate the programming skills of kids these days. Too simple.

LMAO! If only these guys knew, Owen...

Bill Howell 11-20-2010 10:45 PM

Re: Drive By Wire
 
Does everyone really believe there are no Matty Boxes and Racer's Eye Tree Readers out there? I'm sure they will work with any kind or year of car. To me, tear down for cams, carb, cc's etc. seems crazy when the mechanical things may win an occasional heads up run when the electronic stuff can help win any round. I'm not saying mechanical tear down is not important, it just pales in comparison to the electronic checks.

Jeff Lee 11-21-2010 01:57 AM

Re: Drive By Wire
 
I don't know....all I know is I can take my Ford Expedition in the driveway and floor in in neutral or park and it will only go to about 2500 RPM and it makes lots of "whup whup" sounds...

hemidup 11-21-2010 02:10 AM

Re: Drive By Wire
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton (Post 223405)
The throttle position has the least effect on the new cars. That from someone who knows.

^^^ X's 2, Mr. Jeff.


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