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Mike Carr 08-16-2014 10:49 AM

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1980-newer cars; 1979-older engines in IHRA Stock GT. That was the original intent of NHRA SS/GT, which has since changed to any year car and engine.

A rule change like that for IHRA Stk/GT would likely bring in a lot of new F/X motors into it. Be careful what you wish for.

No to any new classes in Stock is my vote.

Rory McNeil 08-16-2014 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert Swartz (Post 441678)
Dan,

I like the idea. Sounds a little like the old Formula Stock classes of AHRA/IHRA some 35-40 years ago. You could put different combinations of engines or transmissions in cars that never came with them.Robert Swartz

And what exactly would be STOCK about that? Since the closest IHRA track to me is over 10 hours away, I have never ran any IHRA races, so I personally don`t care, but when I look at my Nitro Joe stats, it seems to me that IHRA already has far too many classes in their interpetation of Stock Eliminator, and far too few racers that run in Stock as it is. I can`t see ever further watering down of the class being a good thng.

Robert Swartz 08-16-2014 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Rory McNeil (Post 441717)
And what exactly would be STOCK about that? Since the closest IHRA track to me is over 10 hours away, I have never ran any IHRA races, so I personally don`t care, but when I look at my Nitro Joe stats, it seems to me that IHRA already has far too many classes in their interpetation of Stock Eliminator, and far too few racers that run in Stock as it is. I can`t see ever further watering down of the class being a good thng.

Rory,

Simply stated I liked the idea. It won't happen. I also agree, there are too many classes in Stock. Formula Stock was a concept of 40+ years back. In this age of $250K stockers, we need something to put new blood into this sport.

Bob

ALMACK 08-16-2014 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Carr (Post 441713)
1980-newer cars; 1979-older engines in IHRA Stock GT. That was the original intent of NHRA SS/GT, which has since changed to any year car and engine.

A rule change like that for IHRA Stk/GT would likely bring in a lot of new F/X motors into it. Be careful what you wish for.

No to any new classes in Stock is my vote.

Since the non-VIN F/X cars didn't show up until 2008, how about this:

Any 2007 and older Stock engine into any year vehicle in the classification guide.

That way none of the new F/X CNC ported cylinder heads, huge throttle bodies, and big roller cam combos are allowed.

I know IHRA will probably never do it, but it is fun thinking of the possible combos. :D

Duane Eiskant II 08-16-2014 07:46 PM

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Honestly who in IHRA can still check a pure stocker camshaft?

Mark Yacavone 08-16-2014 08:02 PM

Re: Crate Motor Pure Stock
 
Do the IHRA Crate specs include duration and overlap?
You would need them for something like this.

Dan Fahey 08-16-2014 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 441752)
Do the IHRA Crate specs include duration and overlap?
You would need them for something like this.

Some are common such as ZZ3 cam

X-TECH MAN 08-17-2014 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Duane Eiskant II (Post 441751)
Honestly who in IHRA can still check a pure stocker camshaft?

Me but I retired about 12-13 plus years ago.....LOL. I taught Hank Blakenship but he passed away. I think your dad used to do it??? Jim Woods has emailed me a few times to get together for a teaching session but he never followed up on it. Its not hard to do but its a giant pain in the butt. Especially on newer cars. I look for classes that need this done to go away soon. It seems that no one cares to do the job anymore. To time consuming and to much work. NHRA stopped in 1986.
LIMITING VALVE SPRING PRESSURES WOULD PUT A LIMIT ON HOW WILD DURATION AND OVER LAP COULD GET AND STOP THE CRAZY EXPENSIVE LIFTER BS.......EASY TO CHECK BUT I DOUBT IT WILL HAPPEN. Its all ancient history.

ss wannabee 08-17-2014 10:22 AM

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Where did the "Pure" go?

Bob Don 08-17-2014 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ss wannabee (Post 441810)
Where did the "Pure" go?

The same place "Stock" went.


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