Crate Motor Pure Stock

[Dan Fahey]

Was wondering if IHRA would consider Crate Motor Pure Stock.

Use existing newer engines already in the Classification Guide.
Would not have to reinvent the wheel.

Such as a 302 4v in a Maverick or 350/255 Chevy in a 57 Corvette.
Would limit small block for small block.
Big Block if already came with a big block

Think this idea would drive a few more combinations.

What do you think?

D

[Bill Grubbs]

Really...

Crate Motor Pure Stock?

What is pure about a crate motor, the intake?

By definition Pure Stock is Black and White...not grey.

Pure Stock is Pure Stock,
Crate Motor is Crate Motor,
and Traditional is Traditional,
each has their defined set of rules.

Remember the Camshaft debacle from earlier this year?

[ALMACK]

I'm all for new ideas, but I am a little confused on this one Dan.

From the way you describe it, it almost sounds exactly like what the Crate Motor class is right now.

i.e....any allowed crate engine in any allowed vehicle in the classification guide.

What would be different with this new proposed class ?


I personally have expressed my desire to see the Stock GT class engine rule change to allow any Stock engine allowed into any Stock vehicle in the Classification guide. ( within corporate boundaries of course)
i.e. '92 Mustang 5.0 into a '68 Mustang.

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by Dan Fahey

Was wondering if IHRA would consider Crate Motor Pure Stock.

Use existing newer engines already in the Classification Guide.
Would not have to reinvent the wheel.

Such as a 302 4v in a Maverick or 350/255 Chevy in a 57 Corvette.
Would limit small block for small block.
Big Block if already came with a big block

Think this idea would drive a few more combinations.

What do you think?

D

Been tried and was shot down many years ago.

[Dan Fahey]

Ok... Decent response..
\When used Crate Motors...might not been the right word.

I see combinations 2v that coulda-shoulda had a 4V.
Figure a stock 4v manifold could be easily bolted on.
Replacing the 2v and move up a few classes.

Maybe Crate Motor was not the best way to start the conversation.

My intent was to consider doable combinations, or upgrade.
Still would have to meet all the other Pure Stock rules.

The advantage you already have existing engine data.
Plus how it would perform.
Would not want to see BB put into a car that came with a SB.

For example always thought Ford lost an opportunity to put a 4v on the Mavericks and Mustang II's.

Think it would be interesting installing a Corvette Triple or Dual Carb on a 350/255 using a stock PS cam.

A 409/425 in a 1969 Chevy...!!
Has to meet Pure Stock cam rules.

It would make things look interesting to the public who like to look at our rides.

Dan

[Ronnie Hamlin]

Stock has already been watered down too much.

[Lou Jeffery]

Dan, The IHRA class Stock GT is similar to what you are suggesting. Very cool class but IHRA only. We ran a Ford Maverick in Crate Motor and had great times doing it. However my location (Michigan) does not work well with IHRA.
Keep up the ideas to get more cars racing instead of sitting in garages. Louis Jeffery

[Troy Pourciau]

Originally Posted by ALMACK

I'm all for new ideas, but I am a little confused on this one Dan.

From the way you describe it, it almost sounds exactly like what the Crate Motor class is right now.

i.e....any allowed crate engine in any allowed vehicle in the classification guide.

What would be different with this new proposed class ?


I personally have expressed my desire to see the Stock GT class engine rule change to allow any Stock engine allowed into any Stock vehicle in the Classification guide. ( within corporate boundaries of course)
i.e. '92 Mustang 5.0 into a '68 Mustang.

I believe Al is right. Correct me if i am wrong.

You can run any GM crate motor in any GM car. or any Ford motor in any Ford car and Dodge with Dodge.

Right or not right???

[Robert Swartz]

Originally Posted by Dan Fahey

Ok... Decent response..
\When used Crate Motors...might not been the right word.

I see combinations 2v that coulda-shoulda had a 4V.
Figure a stock 4v manifold could be easily bolted on.
Replacing the 2v and move up a few classes.

Maybe Crate Motor was not the best way to start the conversation.

My intent was to consider doable combinations, or upgrade.
Still would have to meet all the other Pure Stock rules.

The advantage you already have existing engine data.
Plus how it would perform.
Would not want to see BB put into a car that came with a SB.

For example always thought Ford lost an opportunity to put a 4v on the Mavericks and Mustang II's.

Think it would be interesting installing a Corvette Triple or Dual Carb on a 350/255 using a stock PS cam.

A 409/425 in a 1969 Chevy...!!
Has to meet Pure Stock cam rules.

It would make things look interesting to the public who like to look at our rides.

Dan

Dan,

I like the idea. Sounds a little like the old Formula Stock classes of AHRA/IHRA some 35-40 years ago. You could put different combinations of engines or transmissions in cars that never came with them.

I remember Bunker Hill here in Indiana had a series of classes that allowed you to change intakes and carburetors on stock engines. This was in the early 70's. Guys got carried away with cam changes and such. Was hard to police.

Like the proposal for a watered down version of the old Super Modified class that was bandied about here last year. It would have to be done at a local level. NHRA isn't going to add more classes. IHRA already has a bunch.

Robert Swartz

[Robbie Draughon]

You can't run old cars in stock gt. I think 82 and newer body. Rule didn't get changed when they did away with year rule in super stock.