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B Parker 07-11-2013 05:01 PM

Re: Submit 2014 Rule Change Requests
 
Adding 5% hp to the new cars makes a lot more sence. Most of the older cars that are built right and have had someone work on them can already run a second under. Now if you take 5% hp off those combo's there just going to hit the AHFS min more often and be back to the old hp ratings before you know it. Take my car for an example. In real good air I think I can run 120 under. But I know the new Mustangs in my class in the same air can go between 150 and 160 under. The newer cars are the ones that are not factored right why would you want to change the older cars? Put the HP where it belongs. Besides maybe the added weight to these cars will help the ones that are having problems hooking up. Barry

Jeff Teuton 07-11-2013 05:10 PM

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Having some knowledge of what the manufacturers are thinking, I think the 5 off would have a better chance of getting done. Having some knowledge of what NHRA is thinking, I think 5 off has a better chance. However, nothing is impossible. Maybe 10 off pre 08's, which would not be acceptable to the manufaturers to add 10 to the new cars. If NHRA truly has an interest, I think there could be negotiations. If they don't, we are wasting a lot of good thoughts or bad thoughts, depending on your position. As for as getting lighter and getting hit by the AHFS system, that is exactly why I don't like the present system. A system of averages smooths out the system.

Pistol Pete 07-11-2013 06:18 PM

Re: Submit 2014 Rule Change Requests
 
I can see combining Stick Cars W/ Auto's.

I did this research on Stock Elim. Only
The 4 races i'm about to list only had a total of 288 Total Cars.
35 Stick Cars & 253 Were Automatics.

Englishtown, Bristol, Epping & Norwalk. 7, 10, 11 & 7 respectfully.

The Seat Belt Rule should be changed to 3 years & inspected after 3 to see
if you can use them for another year.

Jeff Lee 07-11-2013 07:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pistol Pete (Post 390362)
I can see combining Stick Cars W/ Auto's.

I did this research on Stock Elim. Only
The 4 races i'm about to list only had a total of 288 Total Cars.
35 Stick Cars & 253 Were Automatics.

Englishtown, Bristol, Epping & Norwalk. 7, 10, 11 & 7 respectfully.

The Seat Belt Rule should be changed to 3 years & inspected after 3 to see
if you can use them for another year.

It seems pretty consistent at around 14%.
As far as seat belts, while I'm for longer inspection periods, I see others point; it's an SFI issue and NHRA won't change. And all in all, seat belts is a trivial issue in the grand scheme of things NHRA.

Ed Wright 07-11-2013 07:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Lee (Post 390334)
Ed, you didn't read the entire post.
I posted my thoughts and Andrew Hill said the same thing you are saying. As you can see, I agreed with Andrew (and you).

Jeff, I don't read posts that long.

At first I thought it was another one from Dan. LOL

Todd Hoven 07-11-2013 07:51 PM

Re: Submit 2014 Rule Change Requests
 
X2 on Combining Sticks and Autos.

442OLDS 07-11-2013 08:02 PM

Re: Submit 2014 Rule Change Requests
 
I think it is great that NHRA is asking for feedback .

That being said,I don't think they should consider suggestions from people that do NOT compete at their events with an actual vehicle.

Ed Wright 07-11-2013 08:19 PM

Re: Submit 2014 Rule Change Requests
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denbreeden (Post 390333)
Easy Ed, 5% is way too much for the new cars. I could see maybe 4.5 or 4.75 but 5%? Your killin' me!

Dennis Breeden

Oh, Dennis, at 3770 lbs you could still run about 1.5 under. LOL

Pistol Pete 07-11-2013 09:05 PM

Re: Submit 2014 Rule Change Requests
 
The seat belt issue to me is that, if you take Racer A that makes 7-8 Div's & just as many
or if not more Nationals compared to Racer B that makes 3-4 Div & 3-4 National meets
the seat belt is not getting used as much.

That's why i say inspect them after 3 years, still good, keep using them.

My .03 cents

Jeff Lee 07-11-2013 10:11 PM

Re: Submit 2014 Rule Change Requests
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 442OLDS (Post 390381)
I think it is great that NHRA is asking for feedback .

That being said,I don't think they should consider suggestions from people that do NOT compete at their events with an actual vehicle.

If you have a Competition Number, they should consider your input.


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